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		<title>By: Jason Alba</title>
		<link>http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2006/10/10/ive-never-heard-worse/comment-page-1/#comment-700694</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Alba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 16:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Manish - right on :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Manish &#8211; right on <img src='http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jason Alba</title>
		<link>http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2006/10/10/ive-never-heard-worse/comment-page-1/#comment-700693</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Alba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 16:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angela, if I did a spoof on it I think I&#039;d get so mad just thinking about that idiot who really believed all the stuff :)  Oh well.  I guarantee if anyone in that room had his company on their target company list, they crossed it off by the end of the meeting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angela, if I did a spoof on it I think I&#8217;d get so mad just thinking about that idiot who really believed all the stuff <img src='http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Oh well.  I guarantee if anyone in that room had his company on their target company list, they crossed it off by the end of the meeting!</p>
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		<title>By: Manish Chacko</title>
		<link>http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2006/10/10/ive-never-heard-worse/comment-page-1/#comment-700692</link>
		<dc:creator>Manish Chacko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 16:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason,

True-Point#11 applies to some and not everybody. It&#039;s valid if you are an individual contributor or manager level. A Director or higher shouldn&#039;t really be flipping burgers or working 50+ hours at it :)
I think volunteering would have been a better idea-at your local church or community center-maybe a few hours a week just to get out of the house (to avoid cabin fever) and network.

You&#039;re right that looking for a job while working full-time is not a good idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason,</p>
<p>True-Point#11 applies to some and not everybody. It&#8217;s valid if you are an individual contributor or manager level. A Director or higher shouldn&#8217;t really be flipping burgers or working 50+ hours at it <img src='http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I think volunteering would have been a better idea-at your local church or community center-maybe a few hours a week just to get out of the house (to avoid cabin fever) and network.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right that looking for a job while working full-time is not a good idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Angela Loeb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angela Loeb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 16:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason, this is a great post!  It had me laughing out loud... especially because, as a career consultant who used to be a recruiter, I&#039;ve heard just about everything (though I admit that occasionally I am still taken aback by what folks do and say).  Sadly, none of this guy&#039;s advice surprises me.  And, yes, I HAVE heard someone give advice about putting your reasons for leaving past jobs on the resume.  Too bad Jay, Michael and I aren&#039;t doing the Job Search Boot Camp Show anymore... we&#039;d have you back on to do a spoof on this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason, this is a great post!  It had me laughing out loud&#8230; especially because, as a career consultant who used to be a recruiter, I&#8217;ve heard just about everything (though I admit that occasionally I am still taken aback by what folks do and say).  Sadly, none of this guy&#8217;s advice surprises me.  And, yes, I HAVE heard someone give advice about putting your reasons for leaving past jobs on the resume.  Too bad Jay, Michael and I aren&#8217;t doing the Job Search Boot Camp Show anymore&#8230; we&#8217;d have you back on to do a spoof on this!</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Alba</title>
		<link>http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2006/10/10/ive-never-heard-worse/comment-page-1/#comment-700689</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Alba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 15:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Manish, I agree with you - getting out has a lot of benefits.  

The reason I didn&#039;t like what this horrible speaker said was that the way he said it, along with other things in the hour he spoke to us, indicated he thought we should spend out time at a low paying job just to get out... I&#039;ve seen job seekers do that and they are too exhausted at the end of a 50 hour work week to do anything in a real job search.  The more executive you are, the harder it is to miss opportunities that you&#039;ll miss for your $6/hour job.

But hey, really, everyone needs to make that choice for themselves :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Manish, I agree with you &#8211; getting out has a lot of benefits.  </p>
<p>The reason I didn&#8217;t like what this horrible speaker said was that the way he said it, along with other things in the hour he spoke to us, indicated he thought we should spend out time at a low paying job just to get out&#8230; I&#8217;ve seen job seekers do that and they are too exhausted at the end of a 50 hour work week to do anything in a real job search.  The more executive you are, the harder it is to miss opportunities that you&#8217;ll miss for your $6/hour job.</p>
<p>But hey, really, everyone needs to make that choice for themselves <img src='http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Manish Chacko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manish Chacko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 13:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason,
Wow, almost all crappy advice!
I agree with Point#11- if you&#039;re out &#039;n about, you get a chance to network with a potential recruiter/hiring manager. But flipping burgers is not the way to go-look for a job at a Starbucks or book store or even a car dealership(new, not used cars :)). This will give you a chance to meet a few people that have a disposable income and may potentially be hiring or know that their company is. Best Buy is another good place-lots of soccer moms and dads that are not tech savvy will be interacting with you-feel free to mention that you used to do xyz and that you are looking-for a job that is :). The flip side(no burger pun intended) is that you will have less time and energy to spend on a job search-to me the trade-off is well worth it. Sending out thousands of resumes on monster and careerbuilder will almost never get you anywhere (been there done that).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason,<br />
Wow, almost all crappy advice!<br />
I agree with Point#11- if you&#8217;re out &#8216;n about, you get a chance to network with a potential recruiter/hiring manager. But flipping burgers is not the way to go-look for a job at a Starbucks or book store or even a car dealership(new, not used cars <img src='http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ). This will give you a chance to meet a few people that have a disposable income and may potentially be hiring or know that their company is. Best Buy is another good place-lots of soccer moms and dads that are not tech savvy will be interacting with you-feel free to mention that you used to do xyz and that you are looking-for a job that is <img src='http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> . The flip side(no burger pun intended) is that you will have less time and energy to spend on a job search-to me the trade-off is well worth it. Sending out thousands of resumes on monster and careerbuilder will almost never get you anywhere (been there done that).</p>
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		<title>By: JibberJobber Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Favorite Friday: Worst Job Search Advice Ever!</title>
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		<dc:creator>JibberJobber Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Favorite Friday: Worst Job Search Advice Ever!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 11:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jason Alba</title>
		<link>http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2006/10/10/ive-never-heard-worse/comment-page-1/#comment-487262</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Alba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 14:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jennifer - here&#039;s some clarification, specifically to those points. I agree that each point could have some merit, but if you were there you&#039;d understand that this guy was about the least qualified guy on the planet to give job search advice.

#2 - always use large font - the way he said it leads into Greg&#039;s response, above.  How large is large?  24? 32? 72?  The funnier thing, though, was he said that most (insinuating &quot;all&quot;) hiring managers are (a) OLD (over 45) and (b) half-blind.  The presentation was full of this type of generalization and discrimination.

#3 - I had a hard time believing people in the room hadn&#039;t asked themselves if they were looking for a gov&#039;t job or a private industry job.  He clearly differentiated the two, and his comment about how the gov&#039;t likes to hire status quo really struck me.  He was saying if you want to make something of your life, work for private industry.  If you don&#039;t, and you are a slouch, the gov&#039;t will take you - it already has employed a number of other good-for-nothing schmucks.

#4 - I have never, ever seen a narrative-form resume. I&#039;ve never seen a resume without bullet points.  Talk about knowing your audience... this piece of advice was so out of place.  It was like &quot;make sure that, after you wake up in the morning, you open your eyes and get out of bed.&quot;  I&#039;ve never since heard this piece of advice... isn&#039;t it assumed?  Like: print your resume on paper, not an envelope.  That&#039;s assumed.... 

#6 - his whole point here was to talk about your hobbies.  He wanted to know if you like to pet dogs, breed birds, walk in the park, etc.  It sounded like he wanted this to be a significant part of the resume and interview... yuck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jennifer &#8211; here&#8217;s some clarification, specifically to those points. I agree that each point could have some merit, but if you were there you&#8217;d understand that this guy was about the least qualified guy on the planet to give job search advice.</p>
<p>#2 &#8211; always use large font &#8211; the way he said it leads into Greg&#8217;s response, above.  How large is large?  24? 32? 72?  The funnier thing, though, was he said that most (insinuating &#8220;all&#8221;) hiring managers are (a) OLD (over 45) and (b) half-blind.  The presentation was full of this type of generalization and discrimination.</p>
<p>#3 &#8211; I had a hard time believing people in the room hadn&#8217;t asked themselves if they were looking for a gov&#8217;t job or a private industry job.  He clearly differentiated the two, and his comment about how the gov&#8217;t likes to hire status quo really struck me.  He was saying if you want to make something of your life, work for private industry.  If you don&#8217;t, and you are a slouch, the gov&#8217;t will take you &#8211; it already has employed a number of other good-for-nothing schmucks.</p>
<p>#4 &#8211; I have never, ever seen a narrative-form resume. I&#8217;ve never seen a resume without bullet points.  Talk about knowing your audience&#8230; this piece of advice was so out of place.  It was like &#8220;make sure that, after you wake up in the morning, you open your eyes and get out of bed.&#8221;  I&#8217;ve never since heard this piece of advice&#8230; isn&#8217;t it assumed?  Like: print your resume on paper, not an envelope.  That&#8217;s assumed&#8230;. </p>
<p>#6 &#8211; his whole point here was to talk about your hobbies.  He wanted to know if you like to pet dogs, breed birds, walk in the park, etc.  It sounded like he wanted this to be a significant part of the resume and interview&#8230; yuck!</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Alba</title>
		<link>http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2006/10/10/ive-never-heard-worse/comment-page-1/#comment-487256</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Alba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 13:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Heather - the problem with this guy (wow, 4 yrs ago!) is that he had a room full of job seekers listening to him, as the expert. I think most of us saw how outdated he was, but there might have been some who thought &quot;yeah, he&#039;s right, I can do that!&quot;  Re: social media, branding yourself, I don&#039;t remember much buzz about that back then... I don&#039;t think many people were talking about it, much less him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Heather &#8211; the problem with this guy (wow, 4 yrs ago!) is that he had a room full of job seekers listening to him, as the expert. I think most of us saw how outdated he was, but there might have been some who thought &#8220;yeah, he&#8217;s right, I can do that!&#8221;  Re: social media, branding yourself, I don&#8217;t remember much buzz about that back then&#8230; I don&#8217;t think many people were talking about it, much less him.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 04:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jason,

I can actually get behind 2, 3, 4, &amp; 6. 

#2 -- I hate it when I see a resume written in size 8 or 9 font. Really? If you have to use tiny fonts, it&#039;s because you don&#039;t know how to edit your pages down and you are trying to squeeze a bunch of crap in that doesn&#039;t belong. 

#3 -- Knowing your intended audience is important. 

#4 -- I agree that no one wants to read a resume that is in a narrative format. 

#6 -- Saying you get along with people is assumed. I don&#039;t think you should talk about hobbies or sports though. You should use specific examples like, &quot;I see projects through to successful completion&quot; and then back it up with a story (e.g. &quot;three other temps were brought in before I was hired and all three were let go...I was the first to get it done right&quot; or something like that).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jason,</p>
<p>I can actually get behind 2, 3, 4, &amp; 6. </p>
<p>#2 &#8212; I hate it when I see a resume written in size 8 or 9 font. Really? If you have to use tiny fonts, it&#8217;s because you don&#8217;t know how to edit your pages down and you are trying to squeeze a bunch of crap in that doesn&#8217;t belong. </p>
<p>#3 &#8212; Knowing your intended audience is important. </p>
<p>#4 &#8212; I agree that no one wants to read a resume that is in a narrative format. </p>
<p>#6 &#8212; Saying you get along with people is assumed. I don&#8217;t think you should talk about hobbies or sports though. You should use specific examples like, &#8220;I see projects through to successful completion&#8221; and then back it up with a story (e.g. &#8220;three other temps were brought in before I was hired and all three were let go&#8230;I was the first to get it done right&#8221; or something like that).</p>
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