Comments on: The Resume Experiment (5 of 5) – The Wrap Up http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2007/03/16/the-resume-experiment-5-of-5-the-wrap-up/ advocacy for the job seeker Thu, 09 Feb 2012 02:23:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.5 By: Resume Docket http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2007/03/16/the-resume-experiment-5-of-5-the-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-351367 Resume Docket Wed, 26 Nov 2008 13:32:38 +0000 http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/archives/459#comment-351367 It's not about templates and it surely is not about padding your resume to get the right job. All it requires is representation of information, provided which is honest and meaningful to the employer. The desired format or resume style is distinct to most career fields and job markets around the world. It may be advisable in some cases to refer to professional advise when starting afresh or even making career changes. It’s not about templates and it surely is not about padding your resume to get the right job. All it requires is representation of information, provided which is honest and meaningful to the employer. The desired format or resume style is distinct to most career fields and job markets around the world. It may be advisable in some cases to refer to professional advise when starting afresh or even making career changes.

]]> By: JibberJobber Blog » Blog Archive » Book Review: 30-Minute Resume Makeover http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2007/03/16/the-resume-experiment-5-of-5-the-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-317630 JibberJobber Blog » Blog Archive » Book Review: 30-Minute Resume Makeover Mon, 04 Aug 2008 16:26:59 +0000 http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/archives/459#comment-317630 [...] you want to find resume writing information on this blog, check out “The Resume Experiment,” a five-post series where resume experts and recruiters pick apart a resume and suggest [...] [...] you want to find resume writing information on this blog, check out “The Resume Experiment,” a five-post series where resume experts and recruiters pick apart a resume and suggest [...]

]]> By: Mark http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2007/03/16/the-resume-experiment-5-of-5-the-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-83058 Mark Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:32:33 +0000 http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/archives/459#comment-83058 Instead of pulling out confidential info, could you instead change those to XYZ-type words? For example, company names, client names, firm locations, website links (and obviously disable them as links and make sure they don't go to ... unfortunate sites!!). If descriptive info like "#3 firm in ____ industry by sales", change the industry name to XYZ. Then you should still be able to see the punch and details without giving away the farm. Instead of pulling out confidential info, could you instead change those to XYZ-type words?

For example, company names, client names, firm locations, website links (and obviously disable them as links and make sure they don’t go to … unfortunate sites!!).

If descriptive info like “#3 firm in ____ industry by sales”, change the industry name to XYZ.

Then you should still be able to see the punch and details without giving away the farm.

]]> By: Jason Alba http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2007/03/16/the-resume-experiment-5-of-5-the-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-83051 Jason Alba Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:14:11 +0000 http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/archives/459#comment-83051 Mark, good question, maybe that has been the thing nagging at me saying "this series isn't finished yet!" You can sift through the series and find that Carl Chapman rewrote it, and I think a couple others rewrote. The problem is that we had to strip out some confidential things, so rewriting wouldn't have the impact/punch that it should... it would have some weird holes. You can reach out to any of the people that participated, though, and ask them for help/advice for your particular situation. What I wanted to do was pick through the various components of the resume writing process... next time I'll be sure to include the final product. Mark, good question, maybe that has been the thing nagging at me saying “this series isn’t finished yet!” You can sift through the series and find that Carl Chapman rewrote it, and I think a couple others rewrote. The problem is that we had to strip out some confidential things, so rewriting wouldn’t have the impact/punch that it should… it would have some weird holes.

You can reach out to any of the people that participated, though, and ask them for help/advice for your particular situation. What I wanted to do was pick through the various components of the resume writing process… next time I’ll be sure to include the final product.

]]> By: Mark http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2007/03/16/the-resume-experiment-5-of-5-the-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-83042 Mark Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:57:10 +0000 http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/archives/459#comment-83042 Was the final result ever published, with all the suggested changes? We've seen the before, we've seen the comments. Now we need to see the result. Was the final result ever published, with all the suggested changes? We’ve seen the before, we’ve seen the comments. Now we need to see the result.

]]> By: JibberJobber Blog » Blog Archive » Meet My Newest Partners http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2007/03/16/the-resume-experiment-5-of-5-the-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-77169 JibberJobber Blog » Blog Archive » Meet My Newest Partners Thu, 04 Oct 2007 14:22:54 +0000 http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/archives/459#comment-77169 [...] Resume writers are special people. I couldn’t do it - I know my personality and what drives me, and the level of attention and creativity needed to write a strong resume in a challenging situation is something that I doubt I would be able to make a career out of. I remember last year when I did The Resume Experiment, Pete Johnson left a comment saying that he believes everyone should write their own resume. I definitely agree, going through the process is important, and we should all do it. But there are times when calling in a professional is necessary, or wise (or both)! [...] [...] Resume writers are special people. I couldn’t do it – I know my personality and what drives me, and the level of attention and creativity needed to write a strong resume in a challenging situation is something that I doubt I would be able to make a career out of. I remember last year when I did The Resume Experiment, Pete Johnson left a comment saying that he believes everyone should write their own resume. I definitely agree, going through the process is important, and we should all do it. But there are times when calling in a professional is necessary, or wise (or both)! [...]

]]> By: JibberJobber Blog » Blog Archive » Job Seeker Blogs - Why I Hate Them http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2007/03/16/the-resume-experiment-5-of-5-the-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-62864 JibberJobber Blog » Blog Archive » Job Seeker Blogs - Why I Hate Them Wed, 01 Aug 2007 18:06:08 +0000 http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/archives/459#comment-62864 [...] Transparency is cool. Really. But realize that you are leaving personal branding crumbs all over the place. Clint James is a GenY guy that is pleading with you to clean it up. Ryan Healy totally disagree (but we’ve agreed to disagree :p) in Penelope Trunk’s blog. My question is, will Ryan Smith regret this blog in 10 years? Even if Google does start erasing stuff that is 18 months outdated (I read that somewhere, so it’s like 9th hand information), it might be found on The Way Back Machine! [...] [...] Transparency is cool. Really. But realize that you are leaving personal branding crumbs all over the place. Clint James is a GenY guy that is pleading with you to clean it up. Ryan Healy totally disagree (but we’ve agreed to disagree :p) in Penelope Trunk’s blog. My question is, will Ryan Smith regret this blog in 10 years? Even if Google does start erasing stuff that is 18 months outdated (I read that somewhere, so it’s like 9th hand information), it might be found on The Way Back Machine! [...]

]]> By: Steve http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2007/03/16/the-resume-experiment-5-of-5-the-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-19069 Steve Wed, 21 Mar 2007 15:36:16 +0000 http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/archives/459#comment-19069 Jason, Has John Doe directly contacted any one here to help him go to the next step of the experiment? As far as I'm concerned, all we've done is help him apply for grant money; it's time for him to actually conduct the experiment. John, you're free to call me at 203-216-6226 - I'll show you how a template can be augmented to satisfy both the hiring manager (don't for a second think you have to satisfy the recruiting contact) and the owner. JD, you're call. Jason,

Has John Doe directly contacted any one here to help him go to the next step of the experiment? As far as I’m concerned, all we’ve done is help him apply for grant money; it’s time for him to actually conduct the experiment. John, you’re free to call me at 203-216-6226 – I’ll show you how a template can be augmented to satisfy both the hiring manager (don’t for a second think you have to satisfy the recruiting contact) and the owner.

JD, you’re call.

]]> By: Pete Johnson http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2007/03/16/the-resume-experiment-5-of-5-the-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-17977 Pete Johnson Sun, 18 Mar 2007 06:58:23 +0000 http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/archives/459#comment-17977 I definitely agree that it's all about the process. The actual piece of paper (or Word file as the case may be) is the most tangible part of the process, as has been pointed out in the main article above. You find out about what kinds of things are important to you in a job and get to reflect on your prior job experience as you are finding your next one. That's among the reasons I advocate writing your own resume as opposed to using a writer. It sounds like from the comments above that some writers make you go through the all-important soul searching process prior to the writing, but that is unfortunately not true of all of them. The cruel irony to me is that beauty is in the eye of the beholder here. That "customer" that Jason references above (thanks for the plug, btw, although I cringed at being called "a manager") has different things that are important to him or her as part of the screening process and you don't find out what that is until you make it to the next step or not. My advice there is to think about what you'd like to see in a resume from someone applying for a particular job and go from there. Jason's right, the actual piece of paper isn't intended for you (the process is), it's intended for the person doing the hiring. ---Pete http://nerdguru.net ps: I think a follow up series on interviews would be great. I have my own opinions on what constitutes best practices for different forms of techie interviews (http://nerdguru.blogspot.com/2006/10/surviving-engineering-interviews-part.html), but a similar panel discussion on that topic would provide a lot of different opportunities for opinions the way this one did on resumes. I definitely agree that it’s all about the process. The actual piece of paper (or Word file as the case may be) is the most tangible part of the process, as has been pointed out in the main article above. You find out about what kinds of things are important to you in a job and get to reflect on your prior job experience as you are finding your next one.

That’s among the reasons I advocate writing your own resume as opposed to using a writer. It sounds like from the comments above that some writers make you go through the all-important soul searching process prior to the writing, but that is unfortunately not true of all of them.

The cruel irony to me is that beauty is in the eye of the beholder here. That “customer” that Jason references above (thanks for the plug, btw, although I cringed at being called “a manager”) has different things that are important to him or her as part of the screening process and you don’t find out what that is until you make it to the next step or not. My advice there is to think about what you’d like to see in a resume from someone applying for a particular job and go from there. Jason’s right, the actual piece of paper isn’t intended for you (the process is), it’s intended for the person doing the hiring.

—Pete
http://nerdguru.net

ps: I think a follow up series on interviews would be great. I have my own opinions on what constitutes best practices for different forms of techie interviews (http://nerdguru.blogspot.com/2006/10/surviving-engineering-interviews-part.html), but a similar panel discussion on that topic would provide a lot of different opportunities for opinions the way this one did on resumes.

]]> By: Daniel Johnson Jr http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2007/03/16/the-resume-experiment-5-of-5-the-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-17160 Daniel Johnson Jr Sat, 17 Mar 2007 04:55:27 +0000 http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/archives/459#comment-17160 Thanks for the mention, Jason! I really enjoy these series types of posts. Thanks for the mention, Jason! I really enjoy these series types of posts.

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