Comments on: Security? We Don’t Need Your Stinkin’ Security! http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2007/06/13/security-we-dont-need-your-stinkin-security/ advocacy for the job seeker Thu, 09 Feb 2012 02:23:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.5 By: JibberJobber Blog » Blog Archive » I’m Distressed Because “You” Don’t Get It !! http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2007/06/13/security-we-dont-need-your-stinkin-security/comment-page-1/#comment-50439 JibberJobber Blog » Blog Archive » I’m Distressed Because “You” Don’t Get It !! Wed, 20 Jun 2007 15:10:59 +0000 http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/archives/685#comment-50439 [...] I know what I think these little daily things should be but I want you to chip in. Instead of leaving an “amen!” “hallelujah” or “you da man” comment, please help me answer Fred’s question, left in a comment a couple of days ago: Great advice but where do you start each day? I have had two major companies close on me and then I was laid off from my “dream job” after 6 years. Now I have a great job again but have learned to not rely on security. I got this job from networking which is a great story on its own. What advice do you have for me to keep my network active. I don’t want to seem like I don’t like my current job. How do you get the word out and become “famous?” [...] [...] I know what I think these little daily things should be but I want you to chip in. Instead of leaving an “amen!” “hallelujah” or “you da man” comment, please help me answer Fred’s question, left in a comment a couple of days ago: Great advice but where do you start each day? I have had two major companies close on me and then I was laid off from my “dream job” after 6 years. Now I have a great job again but have learned to not rely on security. I got this job from networking which is a great story on its own. What advice do you have for me to keep my network active. I don’t want to seem like I don’t like my current job. How do you get the word out and become “famous?” [...]

]]> By: Jason Alba http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2007/06/13/security-we-dont-need-your-stinkin-security/comment-page-1/#comment-47501 Jason Alba Sat, 16 Jun 2007 23:19:40 +0000 http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/archives/685#comment-47501 Hey Fred, there are a few answers to that and I think this merits its own blog post :) Hey Fred, there are a few answers to that and I think this merits its own blog post :)

]]> By: Fred http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2007/06/13/security-we-dont-need-your-stinkin-security/comment-page-1/#comment-46124 Fred Fri, 15 Jun 2007 02:56:40 +0000 http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/archives/685#comment-46124 Great advice but where do you start each day? I have had two major companies close on me and then I was laid off from my "dream job" after 6 years. Now I have a great job again but have learned to not rely on security. I got this job from networking which is a great story on its own. What advice do you have for me to keep my network active. I don't want to seem like I don't like my current job. How do you get the word out and become "famous?" Great advice but where do you start each day? I have had two major companies close on me and then I was laid off from my “dream job” after 6 years. Now I have a great job again but have learned to not rely on security. I got this job from networking which is a great story on its own. What advice do you have for me to keep my network active. I don’t want to seem like I don’t like my current job. How do you get the word out and become “famous?”

]]> By: Deb Dib http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2007/06/13/security-we-dont-need-your-stinkin-security/comment-page-1/#comment-45641 Deb Dib Thu, 14 Jun 2007 11:56:23 +0000 http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/archives/685#comment-45641 Wow, cool thread -- and SO relevant! Bottom-line is that you need to have an idea of what your next job will be as you are entering your new job! Sounds nuts, but really isn't. 1) Each new position should fit into your strategic career plan, so knowing what comes next in your planning is elemental. 2) Having a couple of "back-up" ideas with associated contacts is the new security -- and fits in with your strategic career plan. 3) Working your plan while you work your work is critical. Don't be lulled into throwing all your energy into the new job -- save some effort and momentum for your concurrent career building -- becoming "visible / viable / valuable' -- the hunted not the hunter -- a resource and thought leader. Over the years I’ve worked with far too many panicked clients who gave 150% of their time and energy to their companies and none to their careers. These folks were top execs in their companies -- all the internal players knew them, but outside they were "faceless not famous." So when the inevitable happened (C-level tenures are trending 18-48 months depending upon position), it was emotionally and financially devastating. Today’s workers need to get "famous" where it counts -- outside corporate walls -- and never, ever forget internal/external business and personal contacts. They alone are career security, solace, support, and salvation. Wow, cool thread — and SO relevant!

Bottom-line is that you need to have an idea of what your next job will be as you are entering your new job! Sounds nuts, but really isn’t.

1) Each new position should fit into your strategic career plan, so knowing what comes next in your planning is elemental.

2) Having a couple of “back-up” ideas with associated contacts is the new security — and fits in with your strategic career plan.

3) Working your plan while you work your work is critical. Don’t be lulled into throwing all your energy into the new job — save some effort and momentum for your concurrent career building — becoming “visible / viable / valuable’ — the hunted not the hunter — a resource and thought leader.

Over the years I’ve worked with far too many panicked clients who gave 150% of their time and energy to their companies and none to their careers. These folks were top execs in their companies — all the internal players knew them, but outside they were “faceless not famous.” So when the inevitable happened (C-level tenures are trending 18-48 months depending upon position), it was emotionally and financially devastating.

Today’s workers need to get “famous” where it counts — outside corporate walls — and never, ever forget internal/external business and personal contacts. They alone are career security, solace, support, and salvation.

]]> By: Anil Atluri http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2007/06/13/security-we-dont-need-your-stinkin-security/comment-page-1/#comment-45545 Anil Atluri Thu, 14 Jun 2007 07:55:47 +0000 http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/archives/685#comment-45545 This is happening almost in every country, where the drivers of the commerce are real strong and on the go. The space in some of these Asian countries is so hot now, the local talent has priced it self out off it. Consequently expats are wooed right into the middle management levels too. Precisely the reason why Out sourcing or off shoring is happening. One needs to be balanced and tempered in her appreciation of her own skills and the job market she is in. Yes. When the company that you are associated with is looking for it's survival without giving a thought to her, it is only right that she should lookout for herself. Yes. She should spend time to strengthen her own career everyday. This is happening almost in every country, where the drivers of the commerce are real strong and on the go. The space in some of these Asian countries is so hot now, the local talent has priced it self out off it. Consequently expats are wooed right into the middle management levels too. Precisely the reason why Out sourcing or off shoring is happening. One needs to be balanced and tempered in her appreciation of her own skills and the job market she is in.

Yes. When the company that you are associated with is looking for it’s survival without giving a thought to her, it is only right that she should lookout for herself.

Yes. She should spend time to strengthen her own career everyday.

]]> By: Daniel Sweet http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2007/06/13/security-we-dont-need-your-stinkin-security/comment-page-1/#comment-45477 Daniel Sweet Wed, 13 Jun 2007 21:05:18 +0000 http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/archives/685#comment-45477 Great post and great point! This is why the modern worker is "always on the market". A lot of folks flinch when I tell 'em that because they think their company will find out. I tell em, "You should be hoping and praying that your company finds out your resume is out everywhere and always being updated. If they claim ignorance about the way business changes on a dime, you'll be needing that resume sooner than you think. Otherwise, you're a guy who is staying *because you want to*, not because you don't have enough other opportunities. Those kind of people need to be treated well." Dan Great post and great point!

This is why the modern worker is “always on the market”. A lot of folks flinch when I tell ‘em that because they think their company will find out.

I tell em, “You should be hoping and praying that your company finds out your resume is out everywhere and always being updated. If they claim ignorance about the way business changes on a dime, you’ll be needing that resume sooner than you think.

Otherwise, you’re a guy who is staying *because you want to*, not because you don’t have enough other opportunities. Those kind of people need to be treated well.”

Dan

]]> By: Rob http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2007/06/13/security-we-dont-need-your-stinkin-security/comment-page-1/#comment-45475 Rob Wed, 13 Jun 2007 20:40:25 +0000 http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/archives/685#comment-45475 Well said. Your "career well-being" can only be controlled by you... Well said. Your “career well-being” can only be controlled by you…

]]> By: Steve Spencer http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2007/06/13/security-we-dont-need-your-stinkin-security/comment-page-1/#comment-45446 Steve Spencer Wed, 13 Jun 2007 17:11:11 +0000 http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/archives/685#comment-45446 Not only do I agree wiht every word, but I think it is also important to note that this is okay even if you love your job and your employer. It is not disloyal to build these relationships. The relationships that will put you in a job if you ever need one are the SAME relationships that bring you insight, connections, and word of mouth to benefit your current emplyer as well. It's a win win. You benefit now, your current employer benefits, you benefit in the future as you look for work, and unless you are a complete social misfit the people you are building relationships with are benefitting as well. It's like having your cake, eating it too, and then having a hostess truck become so distracted by your eating that it crashes into a pole, and spiils out free twinkies and ding dongs for you and all of your friends! Not only do I agree wiht every word, but I think it is also important to note that this is okay even if you love your job and your employer. It is not disloyal to build these relationships. The relationships that will put you in a job if you ever need one are the SAME relationships that bring you insight, connections, and word of mouth to benefit your current emplyer as well. It’s a win win. You benefit now, your current employer benefits, you benefit in the future as you look for work, and unless you are a complete social misfit the people you are building relationships with are benefitting as well.

It’s like having your cake, eating it too, and then having a hostess truck become so distracted by your eating that it crashes into a pole, and spiils out free twinkies and ding dongs for you and all of your friends!

]]> By: Laura Moncur http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2007/06/13/security-we-dont-need-your-stinkin-security/comment-page-1/#comment-45435 Laura Moncur Wed, 13 Jun 2007 13:55:24 +0000 http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/archives/685#comment-45435 Excellent advice! The minute that I gave up on security, I felt much better. I kept feeling betrayed every time a company I worked for started to go under and I needed to start looking again. Knowing that the only security is what I can provide is such a freeing thought! Excellent advice!

The minute that I gave up on security, I felt much better. I kept feeling betrayed every time a company I worked for started to go under and I needed to start looking again.

Knowing that the only security is what I can provide is such a freeing thought!

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