Comments on: When Cool People Announce They Are In A Job Search http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2007/08/10/when-cool-people-announce-they-are-in-a-job-search/ advocacy for the job seeker Sat, 20 Mar 2010 05:51:58 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: JibberJobber Blog » Blog Archive » Looking When You Have a Job (aka, the planned transition) http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2007/08/10/when-cool-people-announce-they-are-in-a-job-search/comment-page-1/#comment-68193 JibberJobber Blog » Blog Archive » Looking When You Have a Job (aka, the planned transition) Tue, 28 Aug 2007 14:44:49 +0000 http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/archives/829#comment-68193 [...] It’s so exciting to see people take their own careers into their own hands! In each case, the person wasn’t looking for more money, they were looking for something they could be passionate about. Take the guy from my post When Cool People Announce They Are In A Job Search (note the awesome comments by Daniel, Bengt, Chuck, Adam, Kellyd, Pete, Darlene, Krystyna, Maggie and Adrian). He makes plenty of money, owns his own business, has all the perks that he could enjoy, but knows that he would be happier in a different type of organization (like the organizations that he used to lead before he went out on his own). [...] [...] It’s so exciting to see people take their own careers into their own hands! In each case, the person wasn’t looking for more money, they were looking for something they could be passionate about. Take the guy from my post When Cool People Announce They Are In A Job Search (note the awesome comments by Daniel, Bengt, Chuck, Adam, Kellyd, Pete, Darlene, Krystyna, Maggie and Adrian). He makes plenty of money, owns his own business, has all the perks that he could enjoy, but knows that he would be happier in a different type of organization (like the organizations that he used to lead before he went out on his own). [...]

]]> By: Adrian http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2007/08/10/when-cool-people-announce-they-are-in-a-job-search/comment-page-1/#comment-65948 Adrian Fri, 17 Aug 2007 02:18:12 +0000 http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/archives/829#comment-65948 REPLY: Joe Touchole I never thought of school as training for a job, not a school of 'higher education' . Its an institute for gaining knowledge. Trade schools, business schools, Technology Institutes train you for a job. I went to college for computers because of my interests and business to better understand the 'real world'. Now I would like to go back for psychology and foreign languages. NOT to help me in my job, but because those are things that interest me and I want to learn more. It was suggested (strongly) by several law professors that I consider law a career. Debate well, understand the nuances of the case studies, however this has never interested me. I took law to practice the techniques I learned in Philosophy (Critical Thinking and Constructive Reasoning). Why did a computer major business minor take law and philosphy...it was fun AND THAT IS WHAT A PERSONS JOB SHOULD BE....FUN. Something you jump out of bed for. Now my computer knowledge could get me a job (boring) and so could my business management (more boring) but its my third selection Employment Counsellor Diploma program that got me the necessary 'certificates' to get into the field. I love it, get glowing reports from management and clients and look forward to each and every day. I never considered this field until I completed a Career Exploration program, which I think should be compulsory in every school for seniors. It might help many people avoid going into college/university, taking the course they think will get them a job and then finding they hate what they end up doing, instead of pursuing their dreams. JMO REPLY: Joe Touchole

I never thought of school as training for a job, not a school of ‘higher education’ . Its an institute for gaining knowledge. Trade schools, business schools, Technology Institutes train you for a job. I went to college for computers because of my interests and business to better understand the ‘real world’. Now I would like to go back for psychology and foreign languages. NOT to help me in my job, but because those are things that interest me and I want to learn more.

It was suggested (strongly) by several law professors that I consider law a career. Debate well, understand the nuances of the case studies, however this has never interested me. I took law to practice the techniques I learned in Philosophy (Critical Thinking and Constructive Reasoning).
Why did a computer major business minor take law and philosphy…it was fun

AND THAT IS WHAT A PERSONS JOB SHOULD BE….FUN. Something you jump out of bed for.

Now my computer knowledge could get me a job (boring) and so could my business management (more boring) but its my third selection Employment Counsellor Diploma program that got me the necessary ‘certificates’ to get into the field. I love it, get glowing reports from management and clients and look forward to each and every day. I never considered this field until I completed a Career Exploration program, which I think should be compulsory in every school for seniors. It might help many people avoid going into college/university, taking the course they think will get them a job and then finding they hate what they end up doing, instead of pursuing their dreams.

JMO

]]> By: Maggie http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2007/08/10/when-cool-people-announce-they-are-in-a-job-search/comment-page-1/#comment-65339 Maggie Mon, 13 Aug 2007 19:04:21 +0000 http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/archives/829#comment-65339 Jason, This is truly an excellent topic and one we don't see very often. It is actually a "hidden" statistic; that over 70% of C-Level execs are actively looking for other positions on an ongoing basis. Often these senior folks don't announce their dissatisfaction with their job or company (as loudly as lower or non-managers do), so their departure come as a surprise to plenty of people. In the Fortune 500 world, where I work, many vendors and service providers help c-levels connect with one another and plenty of managers jump from one Fortune 500 to another. Their resume reads like the Wall St Journal! Bottom line, to your point; everyone looks for a job at one point or another in their career, regardless of how high up (or not) you are in your career climb. The senior crew just are a bit more secretive about it ... :-) (either that or they leave with a bang!) Thanks, Maggie http://corprockstar.blogspot.com Jason,

This is truly an excellent topic and one we don’t see very often. It is actually a “hidden” statistic; that over 70% of C-Level execs are actively looking for other positions on an ongoing basis. Often these senior folks don’t announce their dissatisfaction with their job or company (as loudly as lower or non-managers do), so their departure come as a surprise to plenty of people. In the Fortune 500 world, where I work, many vendors and service providers help c-levels connect with one another and plenty of managers jump from one Fortune 500 to another. Their resume reads like the Wall St Journal!

Bottom line, to your point; everyone looks for a job at one point or another in their career, regardless of how high up (or not) you are in your career climb. The senior crew just are a bit more secretive about it … :-) (either that or they leave with a bang!)

Thanks,

Maggie
http://corprockstar.blogspot.com

]]> By: Joe Touchole http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2007/08/10/when-cool-people-announce-they-are-in-a-job-search/comment-page-1/#comment-65063 Joe Touchole Sun, 12 Aug 2007 09:41:08 +0000 http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/archives/829#comment-65063 I think many of us get caught up in what we do and the lifestyle it provides. If we've gone to grad school for a JD or MBA we feel that pursuing anything outside those very well defined career parameters will identify us as losers.Well I put up with that for too long and I wasn't very happy. Once I let go and found a happy medium things are better. Just don't wait too long. I think many of us get caught up in what we do and the lifestyle it provides. If we’ve gone to grad school for a JD or MBA we feel that pursuing anything outside those very well defined career parameters will identify us as losers.Well I put up with that for too long and I wasn’t very happy. Once I let go and found a happy medium things are better. Just don’t wait too long.

]]> By: Adrian http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2007/08/10/when-cool-people-announce-they-are-in-a-job-search/comment-page-1/#comment-65047 Adrian Sun, 12 Aug 2007 06:49:22 +0000 http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/archives/829#comment-65047 As an employment counsellor, one of the things I emphasize is DON"T take the first job that comes along. Or if you do, think of it as a J.I.T job to pay the bills. Find your passion and pursue it till you achieve success. "Find a job you are passionate about and you will never work a day in your life" Confucius As an employment counsellor, one of the things I emphasize is DON”T take the first job that comes along. Or if you do, think of it as a J.I.T job to pay the bills. Find your passion and pursue it till you achieve success.

“Find a job you are passionate about and you will never work a day in your life” Confucius

]]> By: Krystyna http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2007/08/10/when-cool-people-announce-they-are-in-a-job-search/comment-page-1/#comment-64939 Krystyna Sat, 11 Aug 2007 14:17:14 +0000 http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/archives/829#comment-64939 Two years ago, I left good job. Why? Many people asked because I made money, but felt like programed computer who just working, listen owner; not having opportinity to grow up. Not many owners like smart employs. Any own business is challenging, but positive thinking attitude, action, go forward, being around succesful professionals make us grow - especially if we like what we do. Two years ago, I left good job. Why? Many people asked because I made money, but felt like programed computer who just working, listen owner; not having opportinity to grow up. Not many owners like smart employs. Any own business is challenging, but positive thinking attitude, action, go forward, being around succesful professionals make us grow – especially if we like what we do.

]]> By: Darlene http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2007/08/10/when-cool-people-announce-they-are-in-a-job-search/comment-page-1/#comment-64856 Darlene Sat, 11 Aug 2007 02:50:44 +0000 http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/archives/829#comment-64856 I wrote a post back in March called Don't Just Settle For Any Old Job. (http://www.interviewchatter.com/dont-just-settle-for-any-old-job/). It is a reprint of his Stanford commencement speech made by Steve Jobs. I know you all know who he is, but I didn't until after I read the excerpt. He got fired, and it turned out to be one of the best things that ever happened to him. The question I posed then, I ask your readers here at JibberJobber, can you take your situation and turn it around and become even more successful than you were? I say, "YES YOU CAN!" I believe that whether you are laid off, fired, or leave on your own, with or without a job, if you remain focused, discover your passion, and don't settle, you may find that the "speed bump" you are experiencing (job loss) can turn out to be one of the best things that has ever happened. Read Steve Job's story. It inspired me. I wrote a post back in March called Don’t Just Settle For Any Old Job. (http://www.interviewchatter.com/dont-just-settle-for-any-old-job/). It is a reprint of his Stanford commencement speech made by Steve Jobs. I know you all know who he is, but I didn’t until after I read the excerpt. He got fired, and it turned out to be one of the best things that ever happened to him.
The question I posed then, I ask your readers here at JibberJobber, can you take your situation and turn it around and become even more successful than you were? I say, “YES YOU CAN!”

I believe that whether you are laid off, fired, or leave on your own, with or without a job, if you remain focused, discover your passion, and don’t settle, you may find that the “speed bump” you are experiencing (job loss) can turn out to be one of the best things that has ever happened. Read Steve Job’s story. It inspired me.

]]> By: Jason Alba http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2007/08/10/when-cool-people-announce-they-are-in-a-job-search/comment-page-1/#comment-64778 Jason Alba Fri, 10 Aug 2007 17:28:48 +0000 http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/archives/829#comment-64778 <strong>Adam</strong>, let me throw a monkey wrench into it. He is self-employed, owning the business that he runs. Not for long. So, with that in mind, then what is the stigma? He just couldn't hack business? Wasn't doing well? He wasn't the right leader for the company? The company has done VERY well. But it comes back to passion. There were certain things that he missed that a C-level corporate job would give him (I'm not talking about perks, he had plenty of those), and he was more interested in the excitement and passion that he expects in that job (which he knows well). Interesting, huh? Adam, let me throw a monkey wrench into it. He is self-employed, owning the business that he runs. Not for long.

So, with that in mind, then what is the stigma? He just couldn’t hack business? Wasn’t doing well? He wasn’t the right leader for the company? The company has done VERY well.

But it comes back to passion. There were certain things that he missed that a C-level corporate job would give him (I’m not talking about perks, he had plenty of those), and he was more interested in the excitement and passion that he expects in that job (which he knows well).

Interesting, huh?

]]> By: Pete Johnson http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2007/08/10/when-cool-people-announce-they-are-in-a-job-search/comment-page-1/#comment-64773 Pete Johnson Fri, 10 Aug 2007 17:06:03 +0000 http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/archives/829#comment-64773 I bet you have some statistics that show leprosy is the #1 reason people don't get interviews, right? 8) As corny and cliche as this is going to sound, the best piece of advice my Dad ever gave me was: "If you're going to do something for 8 hours a day every day, you damn well better enjoy it." When you've lost that passion for your current job (and that's happened to everybody) it can still be an uncomfortable thing to admit that and put yourself into a state of massive change. Pete Johnson HP.com Chief Architect Personal blog: http://nerdguru.net I bet you have some statistics that show leprosy is the #1 reason people don’t get interviews, right? 8)

As corny and cliche as this is going to sound, the best piece of advice my Dad ever gave me was:

“If you’re going to do something for 8 hours a day every day, you damn well better enjoy it.”

When you’ve lost that passion for your current job (and that’s happened to everybody) it can still be an uncomfortable thing to admit that and put yourself into a state of massive change.

Pete Johnson
HP.com Chief Architect
Personal blog: http://nerdguru.net

]]> By: kellyd http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2007/08/10/when-cool-people-announce-they-are-in-a-job-search/comment-page-1/#comment-64771 kellyd Fri, 10 Aug 2007 17:01:47 +0000 http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/archives/829#comment-64771 I recently experienced much the same thing after a leadership change in my old job resulted in a toxic work environment. It steadily got worse and worse and I was miserable. My health suffered, my self-image suffered, my work suffered and my family suffered. I left (not soon enough) and was fortunate enough to find a job in an area that I'm passionate and enthusiastic about, working for wonderful people. I once again look forward to coming to work and feel energized again. Never underestimate the power of doing work you love. :-) I recently experienced much the same thing after a leadership change in my old job resulted in a toxic work environment. It steadily got worse and worse and I was miserable. My health suffered, my self-image suffered, my work suffered and my family suffered.

I left (not soon enough) and was fortunate enough to find a job in an area that I’m passionate and enthusiastic about, working for wonderful people. I once again look forward to coming to work and feel energized again.

Never underestimate the power of doing work you love. :-)

]]>