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		<title>By: Can You, The Laid Off, Ever Be Happy Again? &#124; JibberJobber Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2008/06/16/i-lost-more-than-my-job-2-years-ago/comment-page-1/#comment-601399</link>
		<dc:creator>Can You, The Laid Off, Ever Be Happy Again? &#124; JibberJobber Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 12:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] It. Sucks. I know it does.  (See my post titled I Lost More Than My Job 2 Years Ago) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jeff H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2010 16:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I lost most of what you lost and a large portion of my feeling of self worth as it drug on.

The first big change came when closely after my father passed I lost my job. I gained a HUGE chip on my shoulder, feelings of anger, resentment, disillusionment and resounding pride... yeah pride. When you should be humbling yourself to refocus and see whats wrong inside I went into the blame and criticize zone. It was everyone else and their companies I saw flaws with. It stunk! I spent weeks and months determined to show them they were all stupid and wrong. What did that invested time, energy, anger and freustration get me? NOTHING, in fact its almost cost me my marriage, my name, my friends, my family and my faith. How did I let this govern my life? There were so many more things to be thankful for and so many things to focus my energy on while I was looking but instead I chose to self destruct. 

My advice to all: DON&#039;T GO THERE! 

Go HERE:
Work hard at truly building every relationship you can. You will find an opportunity, and sometimes in the least likely places.

Do things for the benefit of others too. You&#039;re struggling but serving will calm your mind and build relationships with those that could become your next coworker, employer or employee...

Great post Jason. Its amazingly frustrating how so many woes of society right now are directly linked to this (crime, divorce, abuse etc...).

Thanks for posting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I lost most of what you lost and a large portion of my feeling of self worth as it drug on.</p>
<p>The first big change came when closely after my father passed I lost my job. I gained a HUGE chip on my shoulder, feelings of anger, resentment, disillusionment and resounding pride&#8230; yeah pride. When you should be humbling yourself to refocus and see whats wrong inside I went into the blame and criticize zone. It was everyone else and their companies I saw flaws with. It stunk! I spent weeks and months determined to show them they were all stupid and wrong. What did that invested time, energy, anger and freustration get me? NOTHING, in fact its almost cost me my marriage, my name, my friends, my family and my faith. How did I let this govern my life? There were so many more things to be thankful for and so many things to focus my energy on while I was looking but instead I chose to self destruct. </p>
<p>My advice to all: DON&#8217;T GO THERE! </p>
<p>Go HERE:<br />
Work hard at truly building every relationship you can. You will find an opportunity, and sometimes in the least likely places.</p>
<p>Do things for the benefit of others too. You&#8217;re struggling but serving will calm your mind and build relationships with those that could become your next coworker, employer or employee&#8230;</p>
<p>Great post Jason. Its amazingly frustrating how so many woes of society right now are directly linked to this (crime, divorce, abuse etc&#8230;).</p>
<p>Thanks for posting!</p>
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		<title>By: Favorite Friday: What Job Seekers Lose &#124; Career Management Alliance Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Favorite Friday: What Job Seekers Lose &#124; Career Management Alliance Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 15:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] JibberJobber Blog. Posted under Career Management on March 26th, 2010   I LOVE THIS POST. I lost more than my job 2 years ago.  Really.  Go read it.  And leave a comment. What did you lose when you lost your job? Print [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kathy Bitschenauer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy Bitschenauer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 00:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Jason,

My experience losing a job about 10 years ago was devastating. It was the result of deliberate two-person bullying that had ground me down so low,  I had to go into counseling for a full year to regain my self-worth and my sanity, and get relief from deep depression. The bullying had been going on for about 9 months, and came to head when I was put on probation and had to endure daily, vicious psychological abuse from my boss, and covert abuse from the co-worker who was feeding my boss&#039;s obsession with beating me up verbally, emotionally, and spiritually. They were quite a tag team. 

My greatest loss was my self-esteem and self-confidence, resulting in severe depression. I was lucky that COBRA insurance covered mental health care. What I gained through counseling was restoration of my sanity and self-respect. However, I did NOT lose my faith. That would never happen because I know the truth I know about God&#039;s love which is unconditional, always available, and divine--not subject to human interpretation. The suffering I endured was never an issue of whether or not God loved me, but rather how He was providing for my healing (through counseling) and for my needs. The suffering was caused by the evil intentions in the hearts of my boss and co-worker.

My loss of income did impact our lifestyle and financial stability. I missed the social camaraderie from the workplace, and the learning opportunities...I love to learn. I also lost the sense of fulfillment until I found something to take its place.   

About 18 months later, I heard about a Christian coaching conference to be held in Bellevue, WA.  I attended it, and met Susan Whitcomb, one of the most compassionate, lovable, and very knowledgeable person I&#039;d ever met. I had not known much about career coaching, but was quite intrigued by it after listening to all the presentations. I signed up for Susan&#039;s career coach training course right after the conference. 

My life gradually took a new direction--not suddenly--and I haven&#039;t looked back. Sometimes we only see the blessings hidden in the dark clouds after the fact. That&#039;s true of any kind of suffering we endure--death of a loved one, loss of a job, a sudden change in health, etc., as Deb Dib mentioned. 

Back to the topic, I agree with Louise Kursmark&#039;s recommendations for Denise. I would add to that to find a circle of support, perhaps including both friends and professionals, with whom you can brainstorm, discuss challenges, turn to for a shoulder to cry on when you need it, or just to feel like a valued human being. I definitely recommend finding ways to put fun in your life while you&#039;re on the journey to a new job or business. Those you surround yourself with makes a huge difference in how well you cope and how well you thrive in times of loss, suffering, and uncertainty. Choose wisely--choose &quot;bone marrow&quot; people, as Susan Whitcomb calls them--people who build you up from the inside out, who nurture you, who have no hidden agendas, and who are truly invested in fostering the best outcome for you. 

My best,

~Kathy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Jason,</p>
<p>My experience losing a job about 10 years ago was devastating. It was the result of deliberate two-person bullying that had ground me down so low,  I had to go into counseling for a full year to regain my self-worth and my sanity, and get relief from deep depression. The bullying had been going on for about 9 months, and came to head when I was put on probation and had to endure daily, vicious psychological abuse from my boss, and covert abuse from the co-worker who was feeding my boss&#8217;s obsession with beating me up verbally, emotionally, and spiritually. They were quite a tag team. </p>
<p>My greatest loss was my self-esteem and self-confidence, resulting in severe depression. I was lucky that COBRA insurance covered mental health care. What I gained through counseling was restoration of my sanity and self-respect. However, I did NOT lose my faith. That would never happen because I know the truth I know about God&#8217;s love which is unconditional, always available, and divine&#8211;not subject to human interpretation. The suffering I endured was never an issue of whether or not God loved me, but rather how He was providing for my healing (through counseling) and for my needs. The suffering was caused by the evil intentions in the hearts of my boss and co-worker.</p>
<p>My loss of income did impact our lifestyle and financial stability. I missed the social camaraderie from the workplace, and the learning opportunities&#8230;I love to learn. I also lost the sense of fulfillment until I found something to take its place.   </p>
<p>About 18 months later, I heard about a Christian coaching conference to be held in Bellevue, WA.  I attended it, and met Susan Whitcomb, one of the most compassionate, lovable, and very knowledgeable person I&#8217;d ever met. I had not known much about career coaching, but was quite intrigued by it after listening to all the presentations. I signed up for Susan&#8217;s career coach training course right after the conference. </p>
<p>My life gradually took a new direction&#8211;not suddenly&#8211;and I haven&#8217;t looked back. Sometimes we only see the blessings hidden in the dark clouds after the fact. That&#8217;s true of any kind of suffering we endure&#8211;death of a loved one, loss of a job, a sudden change in health, etc., as Deb Dib mentioned. </p>
<p>Back to the topic, I agree with Louise Kursmark&#8217;s recommendations for Denise. I would add to that to find a circle of support, perhaps including both friends and professionals, with whom you can brainstorm, discuss challenges, turn to for a shoulder to cry on when you need it, or just to feel like a valued human being. I definitely recommend finding ways to put fun in your life while you&#8217;re on the journey to a new job or business. Those you surround yourself with makes a huge difference in how well you cope and how well you thrive in times of loss, suffering, and uncertainty. Choose wisely&#8211;choose &#8220;bone marrow&#8221; people, as Susan Whitcomb calls them&#8211;people who build you up from the inside out, who nurture you, who have no hidden agendas, and who are truly invested in fostering the best outcome for you. </p>
<p>My best,</p>
<p>~Kathy</p>
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		<title>By: reinkefj</title>
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		<dc:creator>reinkefj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 13:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My self-confidence. My belief that I control my own destiny. My humor. My ability to help. My earning power. My faith in people, especially those in &quot;management&quot;. 

It doesn&#039;t come back, ;-(
the big fat old turkey hisself</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My self-confidence. My belief that I control my own destiny. My humor. My ability to help. My earning power. My faith in people, especially those in &#8220;management&#8221;. </p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t come back, ;-(<br />
the big fat old turkey hisself</p>
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		<title>By: YIPPEE! I Landed a JOB! &#124; Career Management Alliance Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>YIPPEE! I Landed a JOB! &#124; Career Management Alliance Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 14:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] unemployed SUCKS.  You are a fourth class citizen (see my slideshow “I Got Fired“), you have lost your identity, and you’ve had to figure out how to deal with depression in the job search and a whole lot of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] unemployed SUCKS.  You are a fourth class citizen (see my slideshow “I Got Fired“), you have lost your identity, and you’ve had to figure out how to deal with depression in the job search and a whole lot of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Recruiting Animal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Recruiting Animal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 23:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s normal to tie your self-worth and hopes for the future to your immediate level of achievement. 

But it reflects a low state of psychological development that is typical of most people in every culture no matter how much they boast about their spirituality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s normal to tie your self-worth and hopes for the future to your immediate level of achievement. </p>
<p>But it reflects a low state of psychological development that is typical of most people in every culture no matter how much they boast about their spirituality.</p>
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		<title>By: GREGG P</title>
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		<dc:creator>GREGG P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 00:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I lost my job after 20yrs, I would wake up in the morning at 6am and not have any where to go. I would sit on the couch and stare at the the t.v., but would not turn it on. I did&#039;nt know any thing about resumes, monster.com, or how to even interview. I cried alot, I&#039;m 50yrs old and was lost. I went to a doctor for depression, I was lucky my wife worked and carried the health care. I was wating for that one glimmer of hope, everyday more people lost there jobs, it seamed hopeless. I started to talk to friends of mine at my former job ,but soon the phone calls stopped, I went on a web site that helped me write a resume, I applied for a lot of jobs, finally I got a call for an interview, I put on my sport coat and tie, and went to speak to the person hiring, I was sick to my stomach, but went threw with it. The HR rep sat with me for 1hr , I felt more comfortly ,when the interview was over I asked off the  record how I presented myself, they said fine and told me how I could improve. I went on other interviews, and practiced, I went to one interview with 1000 other people for 25 jobs, I sat for 6hrs, I finally made it to the interview room, they talked to me, and then sent me to take a test, and then sent me home. I pushed on, I got a call offering me a job, I took it, I workd there for 2 months, then I got a call from the 1000 people job , they offererd me a position , with benifits, a pension, a good stable company, I quit the job I was at and will be starting this week at the new job. It was like a death to me losing my job after 20yrs, I was ashamed that my wife was carrying the load for our family.  THAT ONE GLIMMER OF HOPE BECAME A REALITY , I GOT  A GOOD JOB ,AND I WILL NEVER LOOK BACK AT THOSE 20YRS, GOD BLESS AMERICA , GOD BLESS THE WORKING MAN AND WOMEN!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I lost my job after 20yrs, I would wake up in the morning at 6am and not have any where to go. I would sit on the couch and stare at the the t.v., but would not turn it on. I did&#8217;nt know any thing about resumes, monster.com, or how to even interview. I cried alot, I&#8217;m 50yrs old and was lost. I went to a doctor for depression, I was lucky my wife worked and carried the health care. I was wating for that one glimmer of hope, everyday more people lost there jobs, it seamed hopeless. I started to talk to friends of mine at my former job ,but soon the phone calls stopped, I went on a web site that helped me write a resume, I applied for a lot of jobs, finally I got a call for an interview, I put on my sport coat and tie, and went to speak to the person hiring, I was sick to my stomach, but went threw with it. The HR rep sat with me for 1hr , I felt more comfortly ,when the interview was over I asked off the  record how I presented myself, they said fine and told me how I could improve. I went on other interviews, and practiced, I went to one interview with 1000 other people for 25 jobs, I sat for 6hrs, I finally made it to the interview room, they talked to me, and then sent me to take a test, and then sent me home. I pushed on, I got a call offering me a job, I took it, I workd there for 2 months, then I got a call from the 1000 people job , they offererd me a position , with benifits, a pension, a good stable company, I quit the job I was at and will be starting this week at the new job. It was like a death to me losing my job after 20yrs, I was ashamed that my wife was carrying the load for our family.  THAT ONE GLIMMER OF HOPE BECAME A REALITY , I GOT  A GOOD JOB ,AND I WILL NEVER LOOK BACK AT THOSE 20YRS, GOD BLESS AMERICA , GOD BLESS THE WORKING MAN AND WOMEN!</p>
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		<title>By: Louise Kursmark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Louise Kursmark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Denise -

Lisa&#039;s advice is right on target... anticipate the question and prepare/practice an answer that is concise, truthful, and draws you back to a discussion of your skills and strengths. First of all, have some confidence! The fact that they are even calling you or inviting you to interview means that you showed them something in your resume that said &quot;I can help you.&quot; Also take comfort from the fact that EVERYONE has some issues that need to be dealt with. The company simply wants to know that you are not a job hopper.

So think about saying something like this - that will explain the situation and reassure them that this is not a chronic situation:

&quot;It does seem like I&#039;ve jumped around a lot. In fact, the circumstances these last few months have been very unusual. You can see from my resume that the vast majority of my experience has been very solid. I&#039;ve stayed with with each company through several job changes and promotions, based on the value I brought in the area of XXXX. Most recently it&#039;s been a series of unexpected occurrences outside my control that caused the short-term jobs. First, I was excited to move to DC because the job was a great fit for my strengths in XXX. Unfortunately, the company lost a major contract shortly after I was hired, and XX jobs were cut immediately, including mine. I was fortunate to find several contract opportunities immediately, and within a couple of months I was approached by a recruiter about joining a company I had admired for a long time. Again, the timing was bad, because the current economic crisis caused our stock to fall significantly and that prompted a major layoff. I&#039;m very proud of the work I did in the short time I was there, and it sounds like your current opening would be another great fit for me. As you know, I have a track record of ....&quot;

Don&#039;t get discouraged, Denise. And don&#039;t feel like they are &quot;out to get you.&quot; They are simply asking a question to be sure this won&#039;t be a problem in the future. If you can reassure them, you can refocus the discussion on what&#039;s really important... your skills, strengths, and value to the company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Denise -</p>
<p>Lisa&#8217;s advice is right on target&#8230; anticipate the question and prepare/practice an answer that is concise, truthful, and draws you back to a discussion of your skills and strengths. First of all, have some confidence! The fact that they are even calling you or inviting you to interview means that you showed them something in your resume that said &#8220;I can help you.&#8221; Also take comfort from the fact that EVERYONE has some issues that need to be dealt with. The company simply wants to know that you are not a job hopper.</p>
<p>So think about saying something like this &#8211; that will explain the situation and reassure them that this is not a chronic situation:</p>
<p>&#8220;It does seem like I&#8217;ve jumped around a lot. In fact, the circumstances these last few months have been very unusual. You can see from my resume that the vast majority of my experience has been very solid. I&#8217;ve stayed with with each company through several job changes and promotions, based on the value I brought in the area of XXXX. Most recently it&#8217;s been a series of unexpected occurrences outside my control that caused the short-term jobs. First, I was excited to move to DC because the job was a great fit for my strengths in XXX. Unfortunately, the company lost a major contract shortly after I was hired, and XX jobs were cut immediately, including mine. I was fortunate to find several contract opportunities immediately, and within a couple of months I was approached by a recruiter about joining a company I had admired for a long time. Again, the timing was bad, because the current economic crisis caused our stock to fall significantly and that prompted a major layoff. I&#8217;m very proud of the work I did in the short time I was there, and it sounds like your current opening would be another great fit for me. As you know, I have a track record of &#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get discouraged, Denise. And don&#8217;t feel like they are &#8220;out to get you.&#8221; They are simply asking a question to be sure this won&#8217;t be a problem in the future. If you can reassure them, you can refocus the discussion on what&#8217;s really important&#8230; your skills, strengths, and value to the company.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 21:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Denise,

It sounds like you need a very succinct way to answer the question, &quot;what have you been doing?&quot;  Start practicing that.  You&#039;ll need to spin it so that the conversation goes back to you and your skills and expertise.  Take the focus off the last 6 months.

Also, I&#039;d go back to temping during the down time.  It will keep you connected to the job market, and you can make new connections.

What does your resume look like?  How does it address the &#039;down&#039; time?  You may need to get your resume either reviewed or reworked entirely.  If you&#039;re a JibberJobber member, check out www.resumepie.jibberjobber.com.

Finally, work your network.  And work it again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Denise,</p>
<p>It sounds like you need a very succinct way to answer the question, &#8220;what have you been doing?&#8221;  Start practicing that.  You&#8217;ll need to spin it so that the conversation goes back to you and your skills and expertise.  Take the focus off the last 6 months.</p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;d go back to temping during the down time.  It will keep you connected to the job market, and you can make new connections.</p>
<p>What does your resume look like?  How does it address the &#8216;down&#8217; time?  You may need to get your resume either reviewed or reworked entirely.  If you&#8217;re a JibberJobber member, check out <a href="http://www.resumepie.jibberjobber.com">http://www.resumepie.jibberjobber.com</a>.</p>
<p>Finally, work your network.  And work it again!</p>
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