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	<title>Comments on: Moving From Corporate Ruins Your Career</title>
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		<title>By: Holden Caulfield</title>
		<link>http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2008/07/14/moving-from-corporate-ruins-your-career/comment-page-1/#comment-314820</link>
		<dc:creator>Holden Caulfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 03:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to add that I enjoyed reading this post. I have worked for companies that gave you a job for life and for companies that prided themselves on their turnover. Even if you had managed to stay at corporate, there was no guarantee that you would have kept your job. I always try and have an exit strategy. The corporation will do its best to protect itself, I try and do the same. I believe the days of working for the same company for 30 years are coming to an end (or have already ended). Most people I know are somewhat disillusioned about working in Corporate America and I don&#039;t see this changing anytime soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to add that I enjoyed reading this post. I have worked for companies that gave you a job for life and for companies that prided themselves on their turnover. Even if you had managed to stay at corporate, there was no guarantee that you would have kept your job. I always try and have an exit strategy. The corporation will do its best to protect itself, I try and do the same. I believe the days of working for the same company for 30 years are coming to an end (or have already ended). Most people I know are somewhat disillusioned about working in Corporate America and I don&#8217;t see this changing anytime soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Alba</title>
		<link>http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2008/07/14/moving-from-corporate-ruins-your-career/comment-page-1/#comment-311471</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Alba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Greig - definitely more to the story, and for over two years I&#039;ve held it close to me... and for now need to keep mum on the entire story.  I&#039;m sure they&#039;re ticked enough that I wrote this much.  Regarding customers, I wasn&#039;t very close to customers before the move, so I&#039;m not sure how much difference there was with existing customers.  I&#039;m pretty sure most of our customers felt taken care of, though, before I moved.

@Ricky - Great points, one key thing I took away from what you wrote is that I should have developed a communication strategy that would work for being in a long-distance relationship.  I goofed up on that, and presumed the mindset you stated in your comment... :(  Alas, it was an excellent career change for me, ultimately.  But it still hurts, when you were friends with all involved.

@ Helen - thanks for the comment.  My post was more about the political issues of not being close to the political center... not necessarily escaping from a corporate/work environment and going out on your own.  BTW, I googled Glyphius and found software for $100 to help with titles of posts, and stuff like that - didn&#039;t see anything like what you are talking about.  What&#039;s the link?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Greig &#8211; definitely more to the story, and for over two years I&#8217;ve held it close to me&#8230; and for now need to keep mum on the entire story.  I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;re ticked enough that I wrote this much.  Regarding customers, I wasn&#8217;t very close to customers before the move, so I&#8217;m not sure how much difference there was with existing customers.  I&#8217;m pretty sure most of our customers felt taken care of, though, before I moved.</p>
<p>@Ricky &#8211; Great points, one key thing I took away from what you wrote is that I should have developed a communication strategy that would work for being in a long-distance relationship.  I goofed up on that, and presumed the mindset you stated in your comment&#8230; <img src='http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />   Alas, it was an excellent career change for me, ultimately.  But it still hurts, when you were friends with all involved.</p>
<p>@ Helen &#8211; thanks for the comment.  My post was more about the political issues of not being close to the political center&#8230; not necessarily escaping from a corporate/work environment and going out on your own.  BTW, I googled Glyphius and found software for $100 to help with titles of posts, and stuff like that &#8211; didn&#8217;t see anything like what you are talking about.  What&#8217;s the link?</p>
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		<title>By: Helen Frank</title>
		<link>http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2008/07/14/moving-from-corporate-ruins-your-career/comment-page-1/#comment-311440</link>
		<dc:creator>Helen Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 18:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I moved from a corporate job to starting my own business at home.  It was such a big step and nerve racking, will it succeed in today&#039;s market?  One thing I have found that was a huge help is asking for help from everyone and anyone I can talk to.  I also found some software that keeps me in check, it&#039;s called Glyphius, it double and triple checks what I&#039;m doing, it&#039;s my safety net, we all need one at sometime in our careers, right?

So to those of you looking to make the jump, go for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I moved from a corporate job to starting my own business at home.  It was such a big step and nerve racking, will it succeed in today&#8217;s market?  One thing I have found that was a huge help is asking for help from everyone and anyone I can talk to.  I also found some software that keeps me in check, it&#8217;s called Glyphius, it double and triple checks what I&#8217;m doing, it&#8217;s my safety net, we all need one at sometime in our careers, right?</p>
<p>So to those of you looking to make the jump, go for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ricky Dyson</title>
		<link>http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2008/07/14/moving-from-corporate-ruins-your-career/comment-page-1/#comment-311425</link>
		<dc:creator>Ricky Dyson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sounds like an ethical dilemma (right vs right) -- it is right ot preserve your job and support your family -- it is also right to do the best job you can for the company. 
Nevertheless you cannot control what other people are going to say and do. Misrepresentation and even downright lying happen at corporate levels, but there are ways to keep communication flowing at a distance. 
There is a mindset that says &quot;if I just do the right thing it will work out and I will be rewarded&quot;. Wrong answer. Naivete and cinicism may be different ends of the spectrum, but reality is in the middle. Not that pragmatism is always the right way to go -- bribery and corruption are born of pragmatism -- but there is always a third path that can lead in an unexpected direction.
This story leads me to think of what else could have been done. In this case, we do not have enough detail to suggest real-life solutions. Except that it seems that a little pre-planning and perhaps the identification of a corporate sponsor who had real interest in the success of the division and who was prepared to put some time into communication could have helped.

According to the story, the corporate culture of this company appears to be self-defeating and ultimately destructive. Probably good to get out before everyone has to find a job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sounds like an ethical dilemma (right vs right) &#8212; it is right ot preserve your job and support your family &#8212; it is also right to do the best job you can for the company.<br />
Nevertheless you cannot control what other people are going to say and do. Misrepresentation and even downright lying happen at corporate levels, but there are ways to keep communication flowing at a distance.<br />
There is a mindset that says &#8220;if I just do the right thing it will work out and I will be rewarded&#8221;. Wrong answer. Naivete and cinicism may be different ends of the spectrum, but reality is in the middle. Not that pragmatism is always the right way to go &#8212; bribery and corruption are born of pragmatism &#8212; but there is always a third path that can lead in an unexpected direction.<br />
This story leads me to think of what else could have been done. In this case, we do not have enough detail to suggest real-life solutions. Except that it seems that a little pre-planning and perhaps the identification of a corporate sponsor who had real interest in the success of the division and who was prepared to put some time into communication could have helped.</p>
<p>According to the story, the corporate culture of this company appears to be self-defeating and ultimately destructive. Probably good to get out before everyone has to find a job.</p>
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		<title>By: Greig Harper</title>
		<link>http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2008/07/14/moving-from-corporate-ruins-your-career/comment-page-1/#comment-311328</link>
		<dc:creator>Greig Harper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be honest, doesn&#039;t seem to be the best company in the world. If they couldn&#039;t see the value you were adding simply because you weren&#039;t stood in front of them then it doesn&#039;t sound like you&#039;ve lost out.

Having said that, it does point out that some politics need to be played in that you need to highlight your own achievements. 

What were you customers views on your move to spend more time with them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be honest, doesn&#8217;t seem to be the best company in the world. If they couldn&#8217;t see the value you were adding simply because you weren&#8217;t stood in front of them then it doesn&#8217;t sound like you&#8217;ve lost out.</p>
<p>Having said that, it does point out that some politics need to be played in that you need to highlight your own achievements. </p>
<p>What were you customers views on your move to spend more time with them?</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Alba</title>
		<link>http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2008/07/14/moving-from-corporate-ruins-your-career/comment-page-1/#comment-311159</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Alba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Animal, good point.  There is much more to the story... this is one of the contributing factors. I think if I would have stayed at Corporate I would have been able to defend my name, reputation and position more, and kept my job.  

But, I was warned to &quot;not burn any bridges&quot; when I was let go... so I&#039;ll keep it this incomplete at this point. Hey, it took me 2 1/2 years to write this much!  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Animal, good point.  There is much more to the story&#8230; this is one of the contributing factors. I think if I would have stayed at Corporate I would have been able to defend my name, reputation and position more, and kept my job.  </p>
<p>But, I was warned to &#8220;not burn any bridges&#8221; when I was let go&#8230; so I&#8217;ll keep it this incomplete at this point. Hey, it took me 2 1/2 years to write this much!  <img src='http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Recruiting Animal</title>
		<link>http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2008/07/14/moving-from-corporate-ruins-your-career/comment-page-1/#comment-311157</link>
		<dc:creator>Recruiting Animal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good story but how do you know that&#039;s why you got fired. Your story has a hole in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good story but how do you know that&#8217;s why you got fired. Your story has a hole in it.</p>
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