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		<title>By: SMoriah</title>
		<link>http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2008/07/22/managers-are-stoopid-and-what-to-do-about-it/comment-page-1/#comment-317077</link>
		<dc:creator>SMoriah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 04:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is it that Business Schools do not teach a full-fledged course in &quot;Humanistic Management?&quot; Why can&#039;t HR personnel, supervisors, managers, presidents, CEO&#039;s, etc., be, to borrow a phrase from James Lipton, &quot;human beings behaving humanly?&quot; Why not a required course, or seminar, in human ethics in the business world, that must be demonstratively passed before being given such a position?

Someone told me no one would take this course because all management, etc., is concerned about is POWER and CONTROL. Who in the 20th century CE does this remind you of?

There was an article or survey done several months ago indicating that managers and managerial treatment are the number one reason 98% (or some other high percentage) of employees do not like their jobs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it that Business Schools do not teach a full-fledged course in &#8220;Humanistic Management?&#8221; Why can&#8217;t HR personnel, supervisors, managers, presidents, CEO&#8217;s, etc., be, to borrow a phrase from James Lipton, &#8220;human beings behaving humanly?&#8221; Why not a required course, or seminar, in human ethics in the business world, that must be demonstratively passed before being given such a position?</p>
<p>Someone told me no one would take this course because all management, etc., is concerned about is POWER and CONTROL. Who in the 20th century CE does this remind you of?</p>
<p>There was an article or survey done several months ago indicating that managers and managerial treatment are the number one reason 98% (or some other high percentage) of employees do not like their jobs.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 04:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I once had six managers who worked for me.  During the annual review process I gave all six of them the highest rating they could get, exceeds expectations.  I told HR and my boss they were all great and that you get what you expect.  If you expect them to exceed they will.  Guess what happened.  I was told I had to redo them all and rate them all in a typical curve, 2 high, 3 medium, and one needs improvement.  What a joke!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I once had six managers who worked for me.  During the annual review process I gave all six of them the highest rating they could get, exceeds expectations.  I told HR and my boss they were all great and that you get what you expect.  If you expect them to exceed they will.  Guess what happened.  I was told I had to redo them all and rate them all in a typical curve, 2 high, 3 medium, and one needs improvement.  What a joke!</p>
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		<title>By: SMoriah</title>
		<link>http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2008/07/22/managers-are-stoopid-and-what-to-do-about-it/comment-page-1/#comment-315633</link>
		<dc:creator>SMoriah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 06:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, being bold can get you fired. And absolutely, DO NOT, take your problems to Human Resources! Human Resources are always on the side of Management, not the employee. 

And in regards to annual reviews, I&#039;ve had managers who score you one point below &quot;Pass&quot; in order to force you out, lying about your performance, attitude, etc. and totally disagreeing with everyone of your associates&#039; positive review of your work, attitude, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, being bold can get you fired. And absolutely, DO NOT, take your problems to Human Resources! Human Resources are always on the side of Management, not the employee. </p>
<p>And in regards to annual reviews, I&#8217;ve had managers who score you one point below &#8220;Pass&#8221; in order to force you out, lying about your performance, attitude, etc. and totally disagreeing with everyone of your associates&#8217; positive review of your work, attitude, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Paloma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paloma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 04:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to address the annual review part of the blog.

In JJ premium there is a job journal, where you can log your activities and accomplishments (it’s under the Tools menu).

My husband is gearing up for his 90 day review.  The best way to do this is to gather all the info about what he&#039;s done since he&#039;s been there, in real time as it&#039;s happening. I proposed that he should start a file the moment he fired up the computer for the first time.   At NASA they did a WAR (Weekly Activity Report) that they could pull data from about  their achievements and helps to the company.  The WAR is an easy way to do your annual review.  The most important thing to do is to make sure you put down the &quot;attaboys&quot; - You know - when you are complimented specifically about something.  This would indicate that they a) appreciate what you did and b) it is something they are wanting to see but not usually getting since your boss wouldn&#039;t necessarily go out of his/her way to comment on something that is status quo.  So even if it doesn&#039;t seem like something earth shaking to you, perhaps it is to the company who hasn&#039;t seen it in a while or may not have seen it ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to address the annual review part of the blog.</p>
<p>In JJ premium there is a job journal, where you can log your activities and accomplishments (it’s under the Tools menu).</p>
<p>My husband is gearing up for his 90 day review.  The best way to do this is to gather all the info about what he&#8217;s done since he&#8217;s been there, in real time as it&#8217;s happening. I proposed that he should start a file the moment he fired up the computer for the first time.   At NASA they did a WAR (Weekly Activity Report) that they could pull data from about  their achievements and helps to the company.  The WAR is an easy way to do your annual review.  The most important thing to do is to make sure you put down the &#8220;attaboys&#8221; &#8211; You know &#8211; when you are complimented specifically about something.  This would indicate that they a) appreciate what you did and b) it is something they are wanting to see but not usually getting since your boss wouldn&#8217;t necessarily go out of his/her way to comment on something that is status quo.  So even if it doesn&#8217;t seem like something earth shaking to you, perhaps it is to the company who hasn&#8217;t seen it in a while or may not have seen it ever.</p>
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		<title>By: Greig Harper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greig Harper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with Rob. I&#039;ve always been a fan of being direct and bold with bosses. You need to be professional but if you can&#039;t be frank with their boss are they being frank with their boss? Sounds like a doomed company where people can&#039;t tell the truth.

If you can&#039;t do this with your boss, get a new job. Or a new boss. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with Rob. I&#8217;ve always been a fan of being direct and bold with bosses. You need to be professional but if you can&#8217;t be frank with their boss are they being frank with their boss? Sounds like a doomed company where people can&#8217;t tell the truth.</p>
<p>If you can&#8217;t do this with your boss, get a new job. Or a new boss. <img src='http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rob Lewis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, but I agree and disagree with parts of it. 
1. Being bold is absolutely dead on! You have to be able to understand your role in your current position before deciding to do something about it. Don&#039;t be afraid of being &quot;out there&quot; with your boss. If he or she doesn&#039;t know how you feel about something then it really is YOUR fault and not theirs. 

2. I am a firm believer of &quot;don&#039;t go above your boss unless you absolutely have to.&quot; I say this because you REALLY don&#039;t know how close your boss and their boss are. I did this a long time ago and learned the hard way after some time in the dog house. You need to have the discussion with your boss. If you don&#039;t like what they have to say and have a good reason to back it up, then you tell them you would like to bring their boss into it. They will know anyway if you go above their head, and in most cases doing so without their knowledge makes you both look bad. 

3. Totally agree, but you need to make the decision on if you want to be a part of this organization. If they are going to be your boss and they don&#039;t know the answers to your questions, maybe better to wait a month or so until their job becomes available!

4. Some organizations just aren&#039;t right for some people. If you hate being inside all day, don&#039;t work in an office environment that even when you move up you are in a corner office. If you don&#039;t like to talk to people, don&#039;t work in a marketing environment. Experience is great, but not at the expense of your personality. (Personal note, working for the FBI does sound AWESOME!)

5. Totally agree. If your boss or your environment sucks, don&#039;t let yourself be on that level. It may make you unpopular in the short term, but in the long term it will define who you are. 

6. Always be on the lookout for that next opportunity. I have had  job offers in grocery stores! You never know who that person is you are talking to. I have people who look like ditch diggers that turned out to b the heads of some very powerful companies, they just like to work with everyone else. Active or passive, you have to always keep your mind open AND be personable.

I have worked with both encouraging bosses and TOXIC bosses. The way you deal with it defines you. It defines your reputation, your perspective and most importantly your future. I love you post and look forward to more!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, but I agree and disagree with parts of it.<br />
1. Being bold is absolutely dead on! You have to be able to understand your role in your current position before deciding to do something about it. Don&#8217;t be afraid of being &#8220;out there&#8221; with your boss. If he or she doesn&#8217;t know how you feel about something then it really is YOUR fault and not theirs. </p>
<p>2. I am a firm believer of &#8220;don&#8217;t go above your boss unless you absolutely have to.&#8221; I say this because you REALLY don&#8217;t know how close your boss and their boss are. I did this a long time ago and learned the hard way after some time in the dog house. You need to have the discussion with your boss. If you don&#8217;t like what they have to say and have a good reason to back it up, then you tell them you would like to bring their boss into it. They will know anyway if you go above their head, and in most cases doing so without their knowledge makes you both look bad. </p>
<p>3. Totally agree, but you need to make the decision on if you want to be a part of this organization. If they are going to be your boss and they don&#8217;t know the answers to your questions, maybe better to wait a month or so until their job becomes available!</p>
<p>4. Some organizations just aren&#8217;t right for some people. If you hate being inside all day, don&#8217;t work in an office environment that even when you move up you are in a corner office. If you don&#8217;t like to talk to people, don&#8217;t work in a marketing environment. Experience is great, but not at the expense of your personality. (Personal note, working for the FBI does sound AWESOME!)</p>
<p>5. Totally agree. If your boss or your environment sucks, don&#8217;t let yourself be on that level. It may make you unpopular in the short term, but in the long term it will define who you are. </p>
<p>6. Always be on the lookout for that next opportunity. I have had  job offers in grocery stores! You never know who that person is you are talking to. I have people who look like ditch diggers that turned out to b the heads of some very powerful companies, they just like to work with everyone else. Active or passive, you have to always keep your mind open AND be personable.</p>
<p>I have worked with both encouraging bosses and TOXIC bosses. The way you deal with it defines you. It defines your reputation, your perspective and most importantly your future. I love you post and look forward to more!</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon Wright</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One boss offers a lot of ammo.  I was in sales and my boss would only let me travel if I could book hotels that charged a maximum of $80/night. He was soooo tight on spending and shot down every idea to reward clients and target new ones that we had a hard time retaining clients and getting new ones. Of course that was the sales team fault. My colleagues there have all left. I was the first and now there is no one in sales when I was there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One boss offers a lot of ammo.  I was in sales and my boss would only let me travel if I could book hotels that charged a maximum of $80/night. He was soooo tight on spending and shot down every idea to reward clients and target new ones that we had a hard time retaining clients and getting new ones. Of course that was the sales team fault. My colleagues there have all left. I was the first and now there is no one in sales when I was there.</p>
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