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		<title>By: Daniel Johnson, Jr.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Johnson, Jr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I worked for 10 months at a local McDonald&#039;s after being unemployed for some time.  We needed the money and it kept me from moping around our home.  I also learned some great teamwork skills and got some experience working in a high-paced environment.  I also got free meals, which came in handy.

I and the store manager knew I was over-qualified for the job, and he had encouraged me to look into working full-time and even managerial positions.  In the end, the job wasn&#039;t a right fit for me for various reasons and it was time to move on.

About a month later I was contacted by a friend I&#039;d worked with years prior about my most recent position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I worked for 10 months at a local McDonald&#8217;s after being unemployed for some time.  We needed the money and it kept me from moping around our home.  I also learned some great teamwork skills and got some experience working in a high-paced environment.  I also got free meals, which came in handy.</p>
<p>I and the store manager knew I was over-qualified for the job, and he had encouraged me to look into working full-time and even managerial positions.  In the end, the job wasn&#8217;t a right fit for me for various reasons and it was time to move on.</p>
<p>About a month later I was contacted by a friend I&#8217;d worked with years prior about my most recent position.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 16:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They will train you on shakes then you will move up to fries.  Pretty soon, you&#039;re eating free quarter pounders!  Three new job sites where just added to the ABout.com top ten employment site list:

http://www.linkedin.com
http://www.indeed.com
http://www.realmatch.com

Give them a try....before shake training</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They will train you on shakes then you will move up to fries.  Pretty soon, you&#8217;re eating free quarter pounders!  Three new job sites where just added to the ABout.com top ten employment site list:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.linkedin.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.linkedin.com</a><br />
<a href="http://www.indeed.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.indeed.com</a><br />
<a href="http://www.realmatch.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.realmatch.com</a></p>
<p>Give them a try&#8230;.before shake training</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Alba</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Alba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 16:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>awesome, awesome, awesome comments. I sit here and pontificate, throw some ideas together, and hope someone reads this blog.  And then I get comments like this and am humbled to see that this might help people - and really, the comments make this blog what it is - thank you!

I just wanted to pick out a GEM from Heather&#039;s comment... her husband had a step job and he essentially camouflaged himself as a passive job seeker... which is the thing that many recruiters and hiring managers are looking for (unfair, I know)... 

If nothing else, getting the right step job helps you become a PASSIVE job seeker, and thus, more desirable... WOW - that is reason enough!  

Very powerful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>awesome, awesome, awesome comments. I sit here and pontificate, throw some ideas together, and hope someone reads this blog.  And then I get comments like this and am humbled to see that this might help people &#8211; and really, the comments make this blog what it is &#8211; thank you!</p>
<p>I just wanted to pick out a GEM from Heather&#8217;s comment&#8230; her husband had a step job and he essentially camouflaged himself as a passive job seeker&#8230; which is the thing that many recruiters and hiring managers are looking for (unfair, I know)&#8230; </p>
<p>If nothing else, getting the right step job helps you become a PASSIVE job seeker, and thus, more desirable&#8230; WOW &#8211; that is reason enough!  </p>
<p>Very powerful.</p>
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		<title>By: Heather Gardner</title>
		<link>http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2008/08/07/should-i-get-a-job-at-mcdonalds/comment-page-1/#comment-318576</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 15:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is nothing wrong with working a job to pay the bills while you look for your &quot;dream&quot; job.  I&#039;ve found some exceptional candidates that are doing what it takes to make ends meet while they &quot;network&quot; into a career position.

I have heard this story time and time again about interviews:

Interviewer:  Why should I hire you?
Interviewee: Because I &quot;need&quot; a job.

This is not a good reason to hire someone.  &quot;Because I&#039;m the perfect person for this position!&quot; is...

Let&#039;s face it, if you are already working, earning some income to cover your expenses while interviewing for your next career position, you will come across more confident about why the next company should hire you.  It can also help your time line so that you don&#039;t have to job hunt.  

My husband just completed a 15 month career search - working at a job he really couldn&#039;t stand... but paying our mortgage and living expenses!  Sure it was painful, but in the end he was a far better candidate (passive) to employers, recruiters and referrals.  They had no idea he was actually an active seeker!  

If I were in a situation where I needed to work, I&#039;d sign up with a temp agency (Volt is a great one!).  A lot of agencies have large accounts with large venders and it could be a good foot in the door to one of them.  OR, I&#039;d at least work for a large chain that pays health benefits.  Gosh, the savings in health benefits could be huge and should be considered in the calculations.  

Network, network, network into your next position!  Working someone only helps build that network.

Another GREAT post Jason!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is nothing wrong with working a job to pay the bills while you look for your &#8220;dream&#8221; job.  I&#8217;ve found some exceptional candidates that are doing what it takes to make ends meet while they &#8220;network&#8221; into a career position.</p>
<p>I have heard this story time and time again about interviews:</p>
<p>Interviewer:  Why should I hire you?<br />
Interviewee: Because I &#8220;need&#8221; a job.</p>
<p>This is not a good reason to hire someone.  &#8220;Because I&#8217;m the perfect person for this position!&#8221; is&#8230;</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s face it, if you are already working, earning some income to cover your expenses while interviewing for your next career position, you will come across more confident about why the next company should hire you.  It can also help your time line so that you don&#8217;t have to job hunt.  </p>
<p>My husband just completed a 15 month career search &#8211; working at a job he really couldn&#8217;t stand&#8230; but paying our mortgage and living expenses!  Sure it was painful, but in the end he was a far better candidate (passive) to employers, recruiters and referrals.  They had no idea he was actually an active seeker!  </p>
<p>If I were in a situation where I needed to work, I&#8217;d sign up with a temp agency (Volt is a great one!).  A lot of agencies have large accounts with large venders and it could be a good foot in the door to one of them.  OR, I&#8217;d at least work for a large chain that pays health benefits.  Gosh, the savings in health benefits could be huge and should be considered in the calculations.  </p>
<p>Network, network, network into your next position!  Working someone only helps build that network.</p>
<p>Another GREAT post Jason!</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Snapes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Snapes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 19:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Way back in the 80&#039;s when the first white collar downsizing occurred I undertook research on how folk used to &#039;unemployment&#039; managed their experience. I was teaching full-time in a business school

I looked at actors who&#039;s work life is unpredictable with long periods of &#039;unemployment&#039;. The psychologically healthiest where those who had &#039;part-time&#039; jobs that got them out of the home, interaction with people and some income as well as &#039;structuring their time&#039;. There was a tendency amongst the &#039;stay at homers&#039; to higher levels of despondency and depression etc etc. Less good mental health.

So there are potentially large mental health benefits, putting you in a better state of mind for the job hunt and the interview etc apart from personal relationships etc which can suffer to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way back in the 80&#8217;s when the first white collar downsizing occurred I undertook research on how folk used to &#8216;unemployment&#8217; managed their experience. I was teaching full-time in a business school</p>
<p>I looked at actors who&#8217;s work life is unpredictable with long periods of &#8216;unemployment&#8217;. The psychologically healthiest where those who had &#8216;part-time&#8217; jobs that got them out of the home, interaction with people and some income as well as &#8217;structuring their time&#8217;. There was a tendency amongst the &#8217;stay at homers&#8217; to higher levels of despondency and depression etc etc. Less good mental health.</p>
<p>So there are potentially large mental health benefits, putting you in a better state of mind for the job hunt and the interview etc apart from personal relationships etc which can suffer to.</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos Hernandez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carlos Hernandez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 19:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I practice your suggestion and have called it &quot;boot-strapping&quot; or &quot;generating multiple streams of income&quot;.

To fund my entrepreneurial venture I work in &quot;step jobs&quot; as an HR consultant to a temp agency ( interview prospective employees) and as a conceirge at a major specialty retailer.

I love the time flexibility and the people I meet!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I practice your suggestion and have called it &#8220;boot-strapping&#8221; or &#8220;generating multiple streams of income&#8221;.</p>
<p>To fund my entrepreneurial venture I work in &#8220;step jobs&#8221; as an HR consultant to a temp agency ( interview prospective employees) and as a conceirge at a major specialty retailer.</p>
<p>I love the time flexibility and the people I meet!</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Groh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry Groh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 16:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is one of the toughest decisions to ever have to make, but one that may be the only hope in a short-term situation.  Is McDonald&#039;s going to be a red flag on your record, or is it a progression to a new position (i.e., retail management)?  If not, don&#039;t go there.

I think a step job is always a possibility, and a stronger one at that.  Find a skill in your set that is worth some money to someone and take a position.  I know earlier in life I did so to make ends meet.  Of course, I also tried my hand at fast food management, and after a month in the position knew it was not a good move!

My brother has used temp agencies as a stop gap in a time when he needed a position, and it actually got him the position he has now.  Something from that avenue is always going to be better on your overall resume than flipping burgers (unless, of course, you plan on taking Ray Krok&#039;s job - no wait, he&#039;s already gone!). 

Is McDonald&#039;s an option?  I think a better one whould always be a temp agency, if the need arises.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one of the toughest decisions to ever have to make, but one that may be the only hope in a short-term situation.  Is McDonald&#8217;s going to be a red flag on your record, or is it a progression to a new position (i.e., retail management)?  If not, don&#8217;t go there.</p>
<p>I think a step job is always a possibility, and a stronger one at that.  Find a skill in your set that is worth some money to someone and take a position.  I know earlier in life I did so to make ends meet.  Of course, I also tried my hand at fast food management, and after a month in the position knew it was not a good move!</p>
<p>My brother has used temp agencies as a stop gap in a time when he needed a position, and it actually got him the position he has now.  Something from that avenue is always going to be better on your overall resume than flipping burgers (unless, of course, you plan on taking Ray Krok&#8217;s job &#8211; no wait, he&#8217;s already gone!). </p>
<p>Is McDonald&#8217;s an option?  I think a better one whould always be a temp agency, if the need arises.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2008/08/07/should-i-get-a-job-at-mcdonalds/comment-page-1/#comment-318322</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 03:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, this post is timely. I was let go about 4 months ago and my severance pay runs out this week. I&#039;ve had no luck in the job search so far and only have about 2 more months of savings. My parents are literally harassing me to take an entry-level job somewhere ASAP but I just can&#039;t do it. Aside from the blow to my already fragile ego, how do I explain to potential future employers that I managed a very large enterprise-level network and now I work at Best Buy upgrading video cards and installing overpriced software?

I guess in the end it comes down to finances whether I like it or not. I can&#039;t pay my mortgage with pride. I&#039;m giving myself 2 more weeks and then I&#039;m going to suck it up and start applying for junior network admin jobs and take the $20-30K pay cut I fear is coming. It beats the heck out the $40-50K pay cut I&#039;d take as an entry-level tech. I&#039;ve applied for several lower positions so far (those with large companies where I could work my way back up in a couple of years) and got turned down each time for being overqualified.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, this post is timely. I was let go about 4 months ago and my severance pay runs out this week. I&#8217;ve had no luck in the job search so far and only have about 2 more months of savings. My parents are literally harassing me to take an entry-level job somewhere ASAP but I just can&#8217;t do it. Aside from the blow to my already fragile ego, how do I explain to potential future employers that I managed a very large enterprise-level network and now I work at Best Buy upgrading video cards and installing overpriced software?</p>
<p>I guess in the end it comes down to finances whether I like it or not. I can&#8217;t pay my mortgage with pride. I&#8217;m giving myself 2 more weeks and then I&#8217;m going to suck it up and start applying for junior network admin jobs and take the $20-30K pay cut I fear is coming. It beats the heck out the $40-50K pay cut I&#8217;d take as an entry-level tech. I&#8217;ve applied for several lower positions so far (those with large companies where I could work my way back up in a couple of years) and got turned down each time for being overqualified.</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 01:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s one thing you haven&#039;t considered that&#039;s actually a major factor here: Will McDonald&#039;s hire you? and the answer is probably &quot;no.&quot; When I was out of work for an extended period I applied to all the major fast food chains, Blockbuster, 7-11, WalMart and a few others (Starbucks, of course, was the Holy Grail -- Benefits for part-timers!) and was unanimously rejected with the age old statement that I was over qualified.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s one thing you haven&#8217;t considered that&#8217;s actually a major factor here: Will McDonald&#8217;s hire you? and the answer is probably &#8220;no.&#8221; When I was out of work for an extended period I applied to all the major fast food chains, Blockbuster, 7-11, WalMart and a few others (Starbucks, of course, was the Holy Grail &#8212; Benefits for part-timers!) and was unanimously rejected with the age old statement that I was over qualified.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Lewis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 23:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It totally depends on the situation. I have been there, but we will take it from an angle not &quot;attached&quot; to my career. My father in law has a bachelor&#039;s degree from SUNY in NY. He is quite smart. He took a step through job at a local convenience store as the assistant manager in the village. We recently moved to this village from Tampa and I can tell you, there are 2000 residents and the nearest major city, Syracuse, is 106 miles away. The other day I introduced my father in law, now a mental health counselor for post-war soldiers, to my neighbor. My neighbor asked me after he left &quot;isn&#039;t he the clerk at the gas station?&quot; I replied that he did work for a short time at the local gas station, in 2003. 

It totally depends on where you live, what you do, and how well and quickly you recover and gain entry into your previous or future profession. Personally, I know there is money to be made online and when I went through this that was the route I took. Is there anything wrong with working at McDonalds, absolutely not, but it&#039;s not how you should be remembered. I caught a lot of slack for not just taking any job, but in this place I would rather be known as the guy who works from home that the guy who pumps my neighbors gas. Pride, yes, Right, no. As a professional and someone who makes six figures even in a bad year, you have to keep yourself at a certain level or you won&#039;t be taken seriously later. Even step jobs can have a negative effect when you live in a small town. Now, change the city to Tampa, a town with millions. The chances of having to face your neighbor are significantly lower, but if you are a memorable person you still risk being known as the VP who took a job at Mickey D&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It totally depends on the situation. I have been there, but we will take it from an angle not &#8220;attached&#8221; to my career. My father in law has a bachelor&#8217;s degree from SUNY in NY. He is quite smart. He took a step through job at a local convenience store as the assistant manager in the village. We recently moved to this village from Tampa and I can tell you, there are 2000 residents and the nearest major city, Syracuse, is 106 miles away. The other day I introduced my father in law, now a mental health counselor for post-war soldiers, to my neighbor. My neighbor asked me after he left &#8220;isn&#8217;t he the clerk at the gas station?&#8221; I replied that he did work for a short time at the local gas station, in 2003. </p>
<p>It totally depends on where you live, what you do, and how well and quickly you recover and gain entry into your previous or future profession. Personally, I know there is money to be made online and when I went through this that was the route I took. Is there anything wrong with working at McDonalds, absolutely not, but it&#8217;s not how you should be remembered. I caught a lot of slack for not just taking any job, but in this place I would rather be known as the guy who works from home that the guy who pumps my neighbors gas. Pride, yes, Right, no. As a professional and someone who makes six figures even in a bad year, you have to keep yourself at a certain level or you won&#8217;t be taken seriously later. Even step jobs can have a negative effect when you live in a small town. Now, change the city to Tampa, a town with millions. The chances of having to face your neighbor are significantly lower, but if you are a memorable person you still risk being known as the VP who took a job at Mickey D&#8217;s.</p>
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