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	<title>Comments on: Letter to University Professors: Stop Failing Us</title>
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		<title>By: JibberJobber Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Preparing College Graduates for Job Search and Career</title>
		<link>http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2009/01/14/letter-to-university-professors-stop-failing-us/comment-page-1/#comment-691384</link>
		<dc:creator>JibberJobber Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Preparing College Graduates for Job Search and Career</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2011 11:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] College Graduates for Job Search and Career April 4th, 2011   If you saw my raw letter to university professors about what they should include in a semester curriculum you know I feel most schools are NOT [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Brad Merrill</title>
		<link>http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2009/01/14/letter-to-university-professors-stop-failing-us/comment-page-1/#comment-691002</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Merrill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2011 18:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason-

As a adjunct faculty member in an school with an accelerated program, I don&#039;t have time to spend a lot of time talking to students about it. Have I? Yes. But the school also has a course that covers this type of thing. (our accelerated program will produce a business student beginning start to BS degree in 36 months. Each course is 4 WEEKS long and meets no more than twice a week.) I teach in the evening so my classes go from 6:00-8:30 pm. So I have 5 classroom hours per week with my students (max) for 4 weeks. If in the course of our class discussion something comes up, it gets addressed. I am always willing to address it outside of the classroom one on one but unless other faculty members do likewise, it will be when the students take PSY299 - which covers the topic in detail. Problem is this is one of the last courses the students take.  Of course, most of our students are non traditional students. (it is a Career College in the Salt Lake City area)</description>
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<p>As a adjunct faculty member in an school with an accelerated program, I don&#8217;t have time to spend a lot of time talking to students about it. Have I? Yes. But the school also has a course that covers this type of thing. (our accelerated program will produce a business student beginning start to BS degree in 36 months. Each course is 4 WEEKS long and meets no more than twice a week.) I teach in the evening so my classes go from 6:00-8:30 pm. So I have 5 classroom hours per week with my students (max) for 4 weeks. If in the course of our class discussion something comes up, it gets addressed. I am always willing to address it outside of the classroom one on one but unless other faculty members do likewise, it will be when the students take PSY299 &#8211; which covers the topic in detail. Problem is this is one of the last courses the students take.  Of course, most of our students are non traditional students. (it is a Career College in the Salt Lake City area)</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Alba</title>
		<link>http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2009/01/14/letter-to-university-professors-stop-failing-us/comment-page-1/#comment-690898</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Alba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2011 17:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Lew, great comments.  I agree with your two value points from the MBA.  For me, it wasn&#039;t in learning the material.

As for networking, branding, etc, I really do think that they should talk about it, at least a little bit.  I don&#039;t mean that it is all their fault if they don&#039;t, but I think it&#039;s a shame that they don&#039;t even breath an idea of any career management stuff (an overgeneralization, I&#039;m sure).

@Malcolm, the thing is, I think they already know how to do it, because of their own career paths, and should mentor us.  Even a statement like &quot;I&#039;m going to teach you all about _____. If you want to get a real job in this field you should check out the following books, which will really help you in your career.&quot;  I think branding and networking have been around long enough... but tenured prof&#039;s don&#039;t really care much about anything ... another over-generalization, I&#039;m sure :)

@JP - amen!  Good point!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Lew, great comments.  I agree with your two value points from the MBA.  For me, it wasn&#8217;t in learning the material.</p>
<p>As for networking, branding, etc, I really do think that they should talk about it, at least a little bit.  I don&#8217;t mean that it is all their fault if they don&#8217;t, but I think it&#8217;s a shame that they don&#8217;t even breath an idea of any career management stuff (an overgeneralization, I&#8217;m sure).</p>
<p>@Malcolm, the thing is, I think they already know how to do it, because of their own career paths, and should mentor us.  Even a statement like &#8220;I&#8217;m going to teach you all about _____. If you want to get a real job in this field you should check out the following books, which will really help you in your career.&#8221;  I think branding and networking have been around long enough&#8230; but tenured prof&#8217;s don&#8217;t really care much about anything &#8230; another over-generalization, I&#8217;m sure <img src='http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@JP &#8211; amen!  Good point!</p>
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		<title>By: JP McDermott</title>
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		<dc:creator>JP McDermott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2011 16:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Jason - 
Great letter and reminder that career management is a foreign language in the universities (and even in the high schools where I teach Junior Achievement to Seniors.) They are so hungry for what&#039;s next? High schools are focused on the colleges. Colleges are focused on - themselves. Great wake up call - thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Jason &#8211;<br />
Great letter and reminder that career management is a foreign language in the universities (and even in the high schools where I teach Junior Achievement to Seniors.) They are so hungry for what&#8217;s next? High schools are focused on the colleges. Colleges are focused on &#8211; themselves. Great wake up call &#8211; thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Malcolm</title>
		<link>http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2009/01/14/letter-to-university-professors-stop-failing-us/comment-page-1/#comment-690800</link>
		<dc:creator>Malcolm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 18:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason,  College Prof&#039;s could not teach you about branding and networking unless you signed up for the course and we both know that it was not offered.  Branding and networking is too recent a trend to be something available in college when you were there.  

Malcolm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason,  College Prof&#8217;s could not teach you about branding and networking unless you signed up for the course and we both know that it was not offered.  Branding and networking is too recent a trend to be something available in college when you were there.  </p>
<p>Malcolm</p>
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		<title>By: Lew Sauder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lew Sauder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 13:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone with an MBA from Northwestern, I have come to believe that the real value of the degree comes from 1) the lifelong contacts you make and nurture after it&#039;s all over, and 2) the resume enhancement that opens doors for you.
I don&#039;t mean to belittle the education, I learned a lot, but it&#039;s secondary to the 2 above mentioned benefits. 
As for the MBA program teaching networking, branding, etc.: I think that&#039;s our responsibility.  My wife is an 8th grade math teacher and faces parents who expect her to share the parenting role.  She&#039;s supposed to teach and they are supposed to make sure the kids do their homework.  Similarly, the MBA program teaches business, we are supposed to learn how to apply it to become successful.
Lew Sauder, Author, Consulting 101: 101 Tips For Success in Consulting (www.Consulting101Book.com)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone with an MBA from Northwestern, I have come to believe that the real value of the degree comes from 1) the lifelong contacts you make and nurture after it&#8217;s all over, and 2) the resume enhancement that opens doors for you.<br />
I don&#8217;t mean to belittle the education, I learned a lot, but it&#8217;s secondary to the 2 above mentioned benefits.<br />
As for the MBA program teaching networking, branding, etc.: I think that&#8217;s our responsibility.  My wife is an 8th grade math teacher and faces parents who expect her to share the parenting role.  She&#8217;s supposed to teach and they are supposed to make sure the kids do their homework.  Similarly, the MBA program teaches business, we are supposed to learn how to apply it to become successful.<br />
Lew Sauder, Author, Consulting 101: 101 Tips For Success in Consulting (www.Consulting101Book.com)</p>
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		<title>By: JibberJobber Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Favorite Friday: Letter To University Professors: Stop Lying To Us!</title>
		<link>http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2009/01/14/letter-to-university-professors-stop-failing-us/comment-page-1/#comment-690794</link>
		<dc:creator>JibberJobber Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Favorite Friday: Letter To University Professors: Stop Lying To Us!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 13:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Gen Y Grad Sues College Because She Can’t Get Job &#124; Career Management Alliance Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2009/01/14/letter-to-university-professors-stop-failing-us/comment-page-1/#comment-413480</link>
		<dc:creator>Gen Y Grad Sues College Because She Can’t Get Job &#124; Career Management Alliance Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 14:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] gotta do… living off of $70k in student loans is not a way to finance your education. In my post Letter to University Professors: Stop Failing Us, I said that I went to school to position myself for my career (well, I was looking for (cough [...]</description>
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		<title>By: JibberJobber Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Gen Y Grad Sues College Because She Can&#8217;t Get Job</title>
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		<dc:creator>JibberJobber Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Gen Y Grad Sues College Because She Can&#8217;t Get Job</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 12:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] my post Letter to University Professors: Stop Failing Us, I said that I went to school to position myself for my career (well, I was looking for (cough [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Newspaper Sky Is Falling - Find Another Sky? &#124; Career Management Alliance Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2009/01/14/letter-to-university-professors-stop-failing-us/comment-page-1/#comment-383388</link>
		<dc:creator>The Newspaper Sky Is Falling - Find Another Sky? &#124; Career Management Alliance Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] very sharp journalists were going to school just to learn, and not for their career advancement (here’s a contraversial post with hot comments about this idea). But I’m guessing that most of them are there for there for their careers. I asked myself then, [...]</description>
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