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		<title>By: Doostang Thoughts on Staying Focused in a Job Search :: Career-Resumes® :: Former resume expert for Monster.com</title>
		<link>http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2009/01/29/the-10-hour-job-search-seriously/comment-page-1/#comment-691768</link>
		<dc:creator>Doostang Thoughts on Staying Focused in a Job Search :: Career-Resumes® :: Former resume expert for Monster.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2011 13:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Doostang wrote a post on how to stay focused on a job search.  In the first paragraph they say the DOL says Americans, on average, spend 18 minutes a day searching for a job.  Oh My Gosh.  Don&#8217;t even get me started. Here&#8217;s my rant on this: The 10 Hour Job Search – Seriously. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Doostang wrote a post on how to stay focused on a job search.  In the first paragraph they say the DOL says Americans, on average, spend 18 minutes a day searching for a job.  Oh My Gosh.  Don&#8217;t even get me started. Here&#8217;s my rant on this: The 10 Hour Job Search – Seriously. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: How Much TV Do You Watch In Your Job Search? :: Career-Resumes® :: Former resume expert for Monster.com</title>
		<link>http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2009/01/29/the-10-hour-job-search-seriously/comment-page-1/#comment-525557</link>
		<dc:creator>How Much TV Do You Watch In Your Job Search? :: Career-Resumes® :: Former resume expert for Monster.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Here&#8217;s a post I wrote a while back about a 10 hour a week job search. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Favorite Friday: The 10 Hour Job Search? Not If You Are Serious. &#124; Career Management Alliance Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2009/01/29/the-10-hour-job-search-seriously/comment-page-1/#comment-488123</link>
		<dc:creator>Favorite Friday: The 10 Hour Job Search? Not If You Are Serious. &#124; Career Management Alliance Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 13:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] went. I lost sleep over this one, yet I remain passionate about the message. The post is titled The 10 Hour Job Search – Seriously (Jan 19, 2009) Towards the beginning of the post I said: What are they smoking??? I ended the post [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] went. I lost sleep over this one, yet I remain passionate about the message. The post is titled The 10 Hour Job Search – Seriously (Jan 19, 2009) Towards the beginning of the post I said: What are they smoking??? I ended the post [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David Sandusky</title>
		<link>http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2009/01/29/the-10-hour-job-search-seriously/comment-page-1/#comment-374735</link>
		<dc:creator>David Sandusky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 18:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Becky - start the networking group! If your area has plenty to choose from, I would love to see a creative idea around what is needed.   A few folks in my home town (Denver) did exactly that under similar circumstances and created a monster.  I bet you can too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Becky &#8211; start the networking group! If your area has plenty to choose from, I would love to see a creative idea around what is needed.   A few folks in my home town (Denver) did exactly that under similar circumstances and created a monster.  I bet you can too!</p>
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		<title>By: Becky</title>
		<link>http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2009/01/29/the-10-hour-job-search-seriously/comment-page-1/#comment-374504</link>
		<dc:creator>Becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 21:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>40 hours a week looking for work? Seriously? 
I do not know a lot of people in this city, and everyone I am friends with knows I am unemployed and
we keep in touch. The employers that I want to work for have already laid off hundreds of workers with
more experience than I. My options are looking for job postings on the internet.
My neighbor/friend got me my last job (he moved away), the others I found in the classifieds in my local paper.
For the last 2 months I have been looking for affordable medical insurance, because *that* is an emergency. The outplacement service that I used late last year really wasn&#039;t much help. The resume class that I went to was of no help at all.  Right now I am thinking of starting my own networking group at a local coffee shop, I will have to feel the waters first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>40 hours a week looking for work? Seriously?<br />
I do not know a lot of people in this city, and everyone I am friends with knows I am unemployed and<br />
we keep in touch. The employers that I want to work for have already laid off hundreds of workers with<br />
more experience than I. My options are looking for job postings on the internet.<br />
My neighbor/friend got me my last job (he moved away), the others I found in the classifieds in my local paper.<br />
For the last 2 months I have been looking for affordable medical insurance, because *that* is an emergency. The outplacement service that I used late last year really wasn&#8217;t much help. The resume class that I went to was of no help at all.  Right now I am thinking of starting my own networking group at a local coffee shop, I will have to feel the waters first.</p>
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		<title>By: 10 Suggestions for the Job Seeker &#171; The Staffing Advisor</title>
		<link>http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2009/01/29/the-10-hour-job-search-seriously/comment-page-1/#comment-374358</link>
		<dc:creator>10 Suggestions for the Job Seeker &#171; The Staffing Advisor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 05:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] blogs for your industry.  Keep current, find who the thought leaders are, track them on Twitter.  Yes this is alot of work.  Much of it may appear to be unproductive, and certainly unfamiliar.  But remember, learning [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] blogs for your industry.  Keep current, find who the thought leaders are, track them on Twitter.  Yes this is alot of work.  Much of it may appear to be unproductive, and certainly unfamiliar.  But remember, learning [...]</p>
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		<title>By: JibberJobber Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; How To Help A Job Seeker</title>
		<link>http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2009/01/29/the-10-hour-job-search-seriously/comment-page-1/#comment-371072</link>
		<dc:creator>JibberJobber Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; How To Help A Job Seeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 15:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] my 10 hour job search post there is an interesting discussion about how to do a job search, and keeping your chin up, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Doug Blemker</title>
		<link>http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2009/01/29/the-10-hour-job-search-seriously/comment-page-1/#comment-370974</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Blemker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 05:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, I wish to refute Robert&#039;s comment. Unfortunately without Robert being in an out of work position at the present time, I believe it is easy to provide such suggestions and comment. I have, in many instances, taken the &quot;good advice&quot; and learned, adopted and taken them to be of value. However, like any situation, when someone hears the same advice that that person has been working diligently and whole-heartedly at for many months without reward, those ideas do, as Robert comments, become unbearable, threatening and damaging to self esteem. 

I don&#039;t think anyone is disagreeing about the work it takes to be successful in a job search. However, after months of fruitless labor, whether a job search or a work project, the intensity and optimism toward a clear result is lessened. There is a reason very few entrepreneurs succeed. Not everyone is an entrepreneur. Job searching for an extended period is like being an entrepreneur. I am not denying that job search takes preparation and intense work, but without the entrepreneurial spirit, the workload is stressful, depressing and often unbearable for some (note recent suicides in California and Ohio).

In a time when our out-of-work labor force is extremely stressed and when traditional media is saying that reaching out to contacts and networking is becoming &quot;nutworking&quot; (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-talk_kyles_nutworkfeb02,0,7416436.story), any negative or pejorative or, I dare say, overly helpful, repetitive and without result comment toward a job seeker is unfortunate and has no place in a discussion for job seekers (or from one that helps job seekers).

I completely agree with Sophie that in addition to standard job searching, professional and personal development is key to staying abreast of current trends, to learn and practice new ideas and to develop new skills before you find a new permanent position. In addition, as every day passes, the ability to use &quot;standard techniques&quot; lessens and new ideas must be developed to break through the clutter and earn a seat at the table of choice.

I sent this in an e-mail to Jason but I will share it here as well. For all those that are career advisers, counselors, recruiters, friends, networking contacts, etc., treat those that are out of work with care and as the intelligent, motivated and well-educated individuals we are. Do not insult our intelligence. Do not think we haven&#039;t tried the standard options. We have. Unlike those in a payrolled position, those without jobs are focused on doing the best they can to stay positive, somehow survive and work to develop increased employable skills -- all without compensation, leadership or external motivation.

Coaches, advisers and the like must be in a difficult position. However, to profit off of a time like this by negating the emotion attached to it is harmful to those very people you are trying to help. 

Robert, please support your fellow professionals. I can only hope you are not in the same position in the near future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, I wish to refute Robert&#8217;s comment. Unfortunately without Robert being in an out of work position at the present time, I believe it is easy to provide such suggestions and comment. I have, in many instances, taken the &#8220;good advice&#8221; and learned, adopted and taken them to be of value. However, like any situation, when someone hears the same advice that that person has been working diligently and whole-heartedly at for many months without reward, those ideas do, as Robert comments, become unbearable, threatening and damaging to self esteem. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think anyone is disagreeing about the work it takes to be successful in a job search. However, after months of fruitless labor, whether a job search or a work project, the intensity and optimism toward a clear result is lessened. There is a reason very few entrepreneurs succeed. Not everyone is an entrepreneur. Job searching for an extended period is like being an entrepreneur. I am not denying that job search takes preparation and intense work, but without the entrepreneurial spirit, the workload is stressful, depressing and often unbearable for some (note recent suicides in California and Ohio).</p>
<p>In a time when our out-of-work labor force is extremely stressed and when traditional media is saying that reaching out to contacts and networking is becoming &#8220;nutworking&#8221; (<a href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-talk_kyles_nutworkfeb02,0,7416436.story">http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-talk_kyles_nutworkfeb02,0,7416436.story</a>), any negative or pejorative or, I dare say, overly helpful, repetitive and without result comment toward a job seeker is unfortunate and has no place in a discussion for job seekers (or from one that helps job seekers).</p>
<p>I completely agree with Sophie that in addition to standard job searching, professional and personal development is key to staying abreast of current trends, to learn and practice new ideas and to develop new skills before you find a new permanent position. In addition, as every day passes, the ability to use &#8220;standard techniques&#8221; lessens and new ideas must be developed to break through the clutter and earn a seat at the table of choice.</p>
<p>I sent this in an e-mail to Jason but I will share it here as well. For all those that are career advisers, counselors, recruiters, friends, networking contacts, etc., treat those that are out of work with care and as the intelligent, motivated and well-educated individuals we are. Do not insult our intelligence. Do not think we haven&#8217;t tried the standard options. We have. Unlike those in a payrolled position, those without jobs are focused on doing the best they can to stay positive, somehow survive and work to develop increased employable skills &#8212; all without compensation, leadership or external motivation.</p>
<p>Coaches, advisers and the like must be in a difficult position. However, to profit off of a time like this by negating the emotion attached to it is harmful to those very people you are trying to help. </p>
<p>Robert, please support your fellow professionals. I can only hope you are not in the same position in the near future.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Dagnall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Dagnall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 03:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug writes: &quot;I do want to refute Robert’s comment about how you do a job search is probably how you work on the job. I think a blanket statement like that is harmful to those searching...Honestly I think luck, being in the right place at the right time and, as always, knowing the right people has a lot to do with job seeking success.&quot;

My point is that a job search should be conducted as you would your job--the same dedication, the same professionalism. I can&#039;t see how that perspective might be &quot;harmful&quot;. It&#039;s good practice--possibly a best practice for job-seekers. 

Does how one practices/searches reflect how one performs when it counts? I think so. I think most coaches would agree that better practice yields better performance, too. 

There are some people who, upon encountering good advice (here I mean Jason&#039;s provocative discussions, for instance), learns and adopts what they find to be valuable. Then there are people who find good examples unbearable, threatening, and damaging to their self-esteem. 

Which would you rather hire? Which would you want to work with?

Luck, hope, and faith are fine--unless they&#039;re a substitute for doing the best you can while you&#039;re waiting for them. Put another way--and if you like, you can refute Seneca and Thomas Jefferson here, too--&quot;Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity.&quot;

I hope this comment isn&#039;t harmful.

Robert</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug writes: &#8220;I do want to refute Robert’s comment about how you do a job search is probably how you work on the job. I think a blanket statement like that is harmful to those searching&#8230;Honestly I think luck, being in the right place at the right time and, as always, knowing the right people has a lot to do with job seeking success.&#8221;</p>
<p>My point is that a job search should be conducted as you would your job&#8211;the same dedication, the same professionalism. I can&#8217;t see how that perspective might be &#8220;harmful&#8221;. It&#8217;s good practice&#8211;possibly a best practice for job-seekers. </p>
<p>Does how one practices/searches reflect how one performs when it counts? I think so. I think most coaches would agree that better practice yields better performance, too. </p>
<p>There are some people who, upon encountering good advice (here I mean Jason&#8217;s provocative discussions, for instance), learns and adopts what they find to be valuable. Then there are people who find good examples unbearable, threatening, and damaging to their self-esteem. </p>
<p>Which would you rather hire? Which would you want to work with?</p>
<p>Luck, hope, and faith are fine&#8211;unless they&#8217;re a substitute for doing the best you can while you&#8217;re waiting for them. Put another way&#8211;and if you like, you can refute Seneca and Thomas Jefferson here, too&#8211;&#8221;Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity.&#8221;</p>
<p>I hope this comment isn&#8217;t harmful.</p>
<p>Robert</p>
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		<title>By: Sophie Lagacé</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sophie Lagacé</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 01:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It looks like we&#039;re talking about different ideas and situations at once, as others have pointed above.  

(1) Unemployed and looking for work: Yes, you should be working on job search-related activities full-time.  But some of this may include training, self-directed learning, contract or part-time work (to make ends meet, make contacts and improve your skills), etc.   

(2) Employed and looking for work: Ten hours a week may well be all you can assign to your search.  That means it&#039;s important to be as efficient as possible, and to take advantage of opportunities for efficiency.  For example, early in the year many people have to set goals and identify training opportunities for the year as part of their employer&#039;s annual review process.  If you can pick goals or training that pull double duty, i.e., are portable to your job search, you&#039;re ahead of the game.  

To answer Abby&#039;s question, I was laid off from my job of nine years last May; I spent three months in intensive job search, easily spending 60 hours or more a week -- and it paid off.  I improved my skills and presentation, I got multiple job interviews, and I had the chance to pick between good offers. But looking for work sucked, it was terrifying, it was demoralizing, and it ate through my savings.  I was determined to get more than just a new desk for that three months of effort and anxiety, so I have been trying to bring the lessons learned into my work methods and habits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks like we&#8217;re talking about different ideas and situations at once, as others have pointed above.  </p>
<p>(1) Unemployed and looking for work: Yes, you should be working on job search-related activities full-time.  But some of this may include training, self-directed learning, contract or part-time work (to make ends meet, make contacts and improve your skills), etc.   </p>
<p>(2) Employed and looking for work: Ten hours a week may well be all you can assign to your search.  That means it&#8217;s important to be as efficient as possible, and to take advantage of opportunities for efficiency.  For example, early in the year many people have to set goals and identify training opportunities for the year as part of their employer&#8217;s annual review process.  If you can pick goals or training that pull double duty, i.e., are portable to your job search, you&#8217;re ahead of the game.  </p>
<p>To answer Abby&#8217;s question, I was laid off from my job of nine years last May; I spent three months in intensive job search, easily spending 60 hours or more a week &#8212; and it paid off.  I improved my skills and presentation, I got multiple job interviews, and I had the chance to pick between good offers. But looking for work sucked, it was terrifying, it was demoralizing, and it ate through my savings.  I was determined to get more than just a new desk for that three months of effort and anxiety, so I have been trying to bring the lessons learned into my work methods and habits.</p>
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