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		<title>By: Ceecee</title>
		<link>http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2009/08/05/vomit-whats-not-great-about-unemployment-insurance/comment-page-1/#comment-421617</link>
		<dc:creator>Ceecee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 04:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi All,

I have read these comments with interest because I have a family member struggling to find work and who is not eligible for unemployment benefits due to working as a freelancer.  The situation is not to be taken lightly in this or any other downturned economy and I see so many of your responses realize that.  I have a question that perhaps someone out there can answer...Is there ever a case when someone like a freelancer without work for an extended period of time actually can collect some kind of monetary assistance?  Freelancers pay all their taxes.  Do some freelancers also pay their own unemployment tax into the system so they can collect benefits at a later date?  I would love some clarification so I can help my family.  Thanks a lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi All,</p>
<p>I have read these comments with interest because I have a family member struggling to find work and who is not eligible for unemployment benefits due to working as a freelancer.  The situation is not to be taken lightly in this or any other downturned economy and I see so many of your responses realize that.  I have a question that perhaps someone out there can answer&#8230;Is there ever a case when someone like a freelancer without work for an extended period of time actually can collect some kind of monetary assistance?  Freelancers pay all their taxes.  Do some freelancers also pay their own unemployment tax into the system so they can collect benefits at a later date?  I would love some clarification so I can help my family.  Thanks a lot.</p>
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		<title>By: Unemployment Insurance: Good or Bad? Evil or Not? &#124; Career Management Alliance Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2009/08/05/vomit-whats-not-great-about-unemployment-insurance/comment-page-1/#comment-415252</link>
		<dc:creator>Unemployment Insurance: Good or Bad? Evil or Not? &#124; Career Management Alliance Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 16:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] grateful there was a system in place that could serve as a financial safety net. John made an interesting comment: Perhaps one could say the same thing about that older busisness associate of yours who retired on [...]</description>
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		<title>By: JibberJobber Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Unemployment Insurance: Good or Bad? Evil or Not?</title>
		<link>http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2009/08/05/vomit-whats-not-great-about-unemployment-insurance/comment-page-1/#comment-415011</link>
		<dc:creator>JibberJobber Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Unemployment Insurance: Good or Bad? Evil or Not?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] made an interesting comment: Perhaps one could say the same thing about that older busisness associate of yours who retired on [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Rand</title>
		<link>http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2009/08/05/vomit-whats-not-great-about-unemployment-insurance/comment-page-1/#comment-414763</link>
		<dc:creator>Rand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Lawgirl:  Sorry, I do not have an ivory tower.  Rather, I have built a company that employs people.  If I lose my job, I do not get UI - as a business owner, I do not qualify, but I still have to pay UI taxes on myself.  I am happy if those taxes go to people who are using them to keep themselves afloat while working full time at getting a new job.  I am less than impressed when my taxes are a vacation subsidy.

While this may upset you, my post was directed to the general discussion and not to your post specifically.  I did, however, appreciate the lack of civility and ad hominem attacks.  Apparently I hit a nerve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Lawgirl:  Sorry, I do not have an ivory tower.  Rather, I have built a company that employs people.  If I lose my job, I do not get UI &#8211; as a business owner, I do not qualify, but I still have to pay UI taxes on myself.  I am happy if those taxes go to people who are using them to keep themselves afloat while working full time at getting a new job.  I am less than impressed when my taxes are a vacation subsidy.</p>
<p>While this may upset you, my post was directed to the general discussion and not to your post specifically.  I did, however, appreciate the lack of civility and ad hominem attacks.  Apparently I hit a nerve.</p>
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		<title>By: Lawgirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lawgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Rand:  If you&#039;ll reread my comment without the dripping sarcasm, judgment and disgust you applied to it the first time, you will see I said &quot;at least.&quot;  What that meant, since you seemed unable to understand it, is that by law you have to be applying for jobs.  Most people apply for as many as possible, not just two.

Now, back to your ivory tower!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Rand:  If you&#8217;ll reread my comment without the dripping sarcasm, judgment and disgust you applied to it the first time, you will see I said &#8220;at least.&#8221;  What that meant, since you seemed unable to understand it, is that by law you have to be applying for jobs.  Most people apply for as many as possible, not just two.</p>
<p>Now, back to your ivory tower!!</p>
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		<title>By: Rand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the use of the word &quot;dole&quot;.  UI was designed to help people from sinking while they find a new job.  That makes sense.  It was not meant to give anyone a subsidized vacation.  If you are on UI you should be working diligently to find a new job or to create another stream of income.  If you are doing the bare minimum of applying for 2 jobs a week (don&#039;t overexert yourself on the 30 minutes that takes) you are on the dole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the use of the word &#8220;dole&#8221;.  UI was designed to help people from sinking while they find a new job.  That makes sense.  It was not meant to give anyone a subsidized vacation.  If you are on UI you should be working diligently to find a new job or to create another stream of income.  If you are doing the bare minimum of applying for 2 jobs a week (don&#8217;t overexert yourself on the 30 minutes that takes) you are on the dole.</p>
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		<title>By: RecruiterGirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>RecruiterGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 15:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like Lawgirl, I&#039;m on extended Federal benefits.  I&#039;ve been searching for a year.  The competition is heavy for the few Recruiter jobs that are being filled.  I don&#039;t love being on unemployment either.  Lots of misconceptions about UI (unemployment insurance).  So Joshua is &quot;living quite comfortably&quot; on UI.  Unlikely.  But he is doing a good job of making a mockery of the system and in the meantime anonymously making himself and possibly his generation look bad.  I thank God every day my two Gen Y kids are employed and their thinking is not like that of Joshua.  But then, if they did think like that I&#039;d have to go all Bill Cosby on them and say, &quot;I brought you into this world, I can take you out!&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like Lawgirl, I&#8217;m on extended Federal benefits.  I&#8217;ve been searching for a year.  The competition is heavy for the few Recruiter jobs that are being filled.  I don&#8217;t love being on unemployment either.  Lots of misconceptions about UI (unemployment insurance).  So Joshua is &#8220;living quite comfortably&#8221; on UI.  Unlikely.  But he is doing a good job of making a mockery of the system and in the meantime anonymously making himself and possibly his generation look bad.  I thank God every day my two Gen Y kids are employed and their thinking is not like that of Joshua.  But then, if they did think like that I&#8217;d have to go all Bill Cosby on them and say, &#8220;I brought you into this world, I can take you out!&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Lawgirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lawgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 01:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoa, whoa, whoa, and furthermore, whoa.

I was laid off in January and have been searching for a job ever since.  However, because training professionals are usually cut first in this economy, I have a lot of equally talented competition out there.  I am now on my extended federal benefits, and I make no apologies for it.

Companies pay into unemployment.  When they cut my job and others&#039;, they knew that we would be applying for unemployment.  The laws surrounding unemployment require all of us to apply for at least 2 positions per week.

I don&#039;t love being on unemployment, but I can&#039;t deny the benefits of having this time off to work on things that I put on the backburner before, namely, my physical health.  I would choose to go to work everyday, but in the meantime, yes I am enjoying the mental, physical, and emotional break.  I recognize that this is one of the few times in life I will have this amount of time off.  Just because I&#039;m not sobbing into an alcoholic beverage doesn&#039;t mean I&#039;m a bad person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa, whoa, whoa, and furthermore, whoa.</p>
<p>I was laid off in January and have been searching for a job ever since.  However, because training professionals are usually cut first in this economy, I have a lot of equally talented competition out there.  I am now on my extended federal benefits, and I make no apologies for it.</p>
<p>Companies pay into unemployment.  When they cut my job and others&#8217;, they knew that we would be applying for unemployment.  The laws surrounding unemployment require all of us to apply for at least 2 positions per week.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t love being on unemployment, but I can&#8217;t deny the benefits of having this time off to work on things that I put on the backburner before, namely, my physical health.  I would choose to go to work everyday, but in the meantime, yes I am enjoying the mental, physical, and emotional break.  I recognize that this is one of the few times in life I will have this amount of time off.  Just because I&#8217;m not sobbing into an alcoholic beverage doesn&#8217;t mean I&#8217;m a bad person.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Alba</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Alba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 22:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Juli - I have a feeling #3 is more about a Brazen Careerist theme (to get more search engine results) than anything else... 

@Maile - I&#039;ve thought a lot about his post and mine since I read his, and my thought is that what he wrote isn&#039;t necessarily bad... but it certainly should have been reworded in a way that says &quot;I&#039;m in a job search, and starting a business... and I have some extra time and a need to do some stuff I&#039;ve neglected when I had my job.  Here&#039;s the list...&quot;  That way his statement isn&#039;t going to come across as brash... just my opinion.

@Helen - just read your very thoughtful comment again - I agree with everything you said about BC, PT and UI!  Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

@Barry - very intersting dynamic, I hadn&#039;t thought about that with regard to UI and those ineligible.  

@John - interesting analogy but it seems the purpose of SS is quite different than the purpose of UI.  

I&#039;m not against the government helping.

I&#039;m not against people paying into a system and then getting money back out when they need it (or, qualify).  

I&#039;m not even against people who might not even deserve it but definitely need it getting help.

I&#039;m not against SS, and I definitely hope it&#039;s around so when I retire I can count on a couple thousand bucks a month, or whatever the amount is, based on what I paid into the system.  Whether it&#039;s around or not is up in the air, isn&#039;t it?

I don&#039;t liken UI OR SS to &quot;the dole&quot; (my reference to it above was not meant to say that all UI is DOLE, rather, the way this guy wrote his post, it seems like he&#039;s living fat off of the gov&#039;t - I mean, me).

You lost me at the wall street execs...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Juli &#8211; I have a feeling #3 is more about a Brazen Careerist theme (to get more search engine results) than anything else&#8230; </p>
<p>@Maile &#8211; I&#8217;ve thought a lot about his post and mine since I read his, and my thought is that what he wrote isn&#8217;t necessarily bad&#8230; but it certainly should have been reworded in a way that says &#8220;I&#8217;m in a job search, and starting a business&#8230; and I have some extra time and a need to do some stuff I&#8217;ve neglected when I had my job.  Here&#8217;s the list&#8230;&#8221;  That way his statement isn&#8217;t going to come across as brash&#8230; just my opinion.</p>
<p>@Helen &#8211; just read your very thoughtful comment again &#8211; I agree with everything you said about BC, PT and UI!  Thank you for sharing your thoughts.</p>
<p>@Barry &#8211; very intersting dynamic, I hadn&#8217;t thought about that with regard to UI and those ineligible.  </p>
<p>@John &#8211; interesting analogy but it seems the purpose of SS is quite different than the purpose of UI.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not against the government helping.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not against people paying into a system and then getting money back out when they need it (or, qualify).  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not even against people who might not even deserve it but definitely need it getting help.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not against SS, and I definitely hope it&#8217;s around so when I retire I can count on a couple thousand bucks a month, or whatever the amount is, based on what I paid into the system.  Whether it&#8217;s around or not is up in the air, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t liken UI OR SS to &#8220;the dole&#8221; (my reference to it above was not meant to say that all UI is DOLE, rather, the way this guy wrote his post, it seems like he&#8217;s living fat off of the gov&#8217;t &#8211; I mean, me).</p>
<p>You lost me at the wall street execs&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John Gould</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Gould</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 17:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jason,
Perhaps one could say the same thing about that older busisness associate of yours who retired on Social Security; they are living on the &quot;dole&quot; also.  Maybe we should get rid of Social Security and give the money to those well-qualified executives on Wall Street who have really worked hard out on the golf course, do you suppose??
Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jason,<br />
Perhaps one could say the same thing about that older busisness associate of yours who retired on Social Security; they are living on the &#8220;dole&#8221; also.  Maybe we should get rid of Social Security and give the money to those well-qualified executives on Wall Street who have really worked hard out on the golf course, do you suppose??<br />
Cheers.</p>
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