Comments for JibberJobber Blog http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog advocacy for the job seeker Sun, 05 Jul 2009 03:37:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 Comment on Just How Messed Up is HR? by When Your Persistence is Too Much | Professional Resume Services http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2009/07/01/just-how-messed-up-is-hr/#comment-408927 When Your Persistence is Too Much | Professional Resume Services Sat, 04 Jul 2009 14:53:16 +0000 http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/?p=2558#comment-408927 [...] When is it too much during the job search/interview process? How many times should you call the HR person/recruiter? I’ve been asked this a lot. I think post interview follow up is an excellent [...] [...] When is it too much during the job search/interview process? How many times should you call the HR person/recruiter? I’ve been asked this a lot. I think post interview follow up is an excellent [...]

]]> Comment on YOU’RE FIRED! Will you do us a favor and sign this before you go? by Robert Merrill http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2007/02/05/youre-fired-will-you-do-us-a-favor-and-sign-this-before-you-go/#comment-408924 Robert Merrill Sat, 04 Jul 2009 14:18:23 +0000 http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/archives/377#comment-408924 Oh, don't contact anybody at that company unless you ABSOLUTELY trust them that they will not talk about you to their managers or any one who might. If there is documentation (or a LACK of documentation) there that may prove what happened, and it comes out that you're sniffing around for information, one thing is for SURE, it will get lost, shredded, altered, destroyed or alternative documentation will get mysteriously created to show that the company did everything right. DO NOT raise any red flags about you to the company. Let you attorney do that, with a supboena. In the military, this would be called "Shock and Awe". :) Oh, don’t contact anybody at that company unless you ABSOLUTELY trust them that they will not talk about you to their managers or any one who might.

If there is documentation (or a LACK of documentation) there that may prove what happened, and it comes out that you’re sniffing around for information, one thing is for SURE, it will get lost, shredded, altered, destroyed or alternative documentation will get mysteriously created to show that the company did everything right.

DO NOT raise any red flags about you to the company. Let you attorney do that, with a supboena. In the military, this would be called “Shock and Awe”. :)

]]> Comment on YOU’RE FIRED! Will you do us a favor and sign this before you go? by Robert Merrill http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2007/02/05/youre-fired-will-you-do-us-a-favor-and-sign-this-before-you-go/#comment-408922 Robert Merrill Sat, 04 Jul 2009 14:13:58 +0000 http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/archives/377#comment-408922 @justme You have rights that were not handled well. I am sure the company you worked with did a fair job on their end to make sure these details were washed away. If what you explain here is fully true, you have grounds here for at least investigating a Worker's Compensation claim (to pay your medical expenses for your arm injury, and to provide you with reasonable work for reasonable pay, or to pay you for lost work damages) You also may have a wrongful termination suit you can file as well, which should help you get back on your feet. HOWEVER, the unemployment ruling is likely right.... you were not laid off and its unclear weather you quit or you were fired in the eyes of your state. Obviously, you <i>wanted</i> to go to work, but the fact is that you didn't show up, and I am sure the papers filed from the company say you didn't show up, or you were an absentee or something of that effect. THE MOST IMPORTANT thing you need to figure out is <b>can you prove</b> that you got hurt AT WORK. Who threw the package of frozen food to you? Will they testify about the exact work you were doing? (They might be fired for it... are they willing to do that?)Is it reasonable and rational to assume that catching those frozen foos is something that COULD be dangerous to you or someone similar to yourself in size and weight, without additional safety precautions being taken. Accidents DO happen.... you're not trying to prove it's ALWAYS dangerous, just that it could be, in the right (or wrong) circumstancesWhat do your doctor's notes explain about the injury? You have a right to those records... Would any other people in your life have the ability to make a judge believe and understand your story? Maybe someone you complained to about the injury... someone who went to the doctor with you? The BIG problem you face is its clear your relationship with the people you worked with was NOT GOOD and that can harm you big-time. Are any of those people willing to stand up for you? The company is NOT on your side, but is there any information you can get from them about what happened? If you can prove this case somehow, I would recommend calling an attorney and asking for a consultation. If you can find one that specializes in workman's compensation cases AND wrongful termination, that is your best option... they will know what to do, and if your case is solid. You may not be able to pay... make sure that's clear up-front. If you have a good case, they will likely take it anyway. I would avoid the "one call, that's all" traffic accident attorneys you see on T.V., but that's just my opinion. Good luck. @justme You have rights that were not handled well. I am sure the company you worked with did a fair job on their end to make sure these details were washed away.

If what you explain here is fully true, you have grounds here for at least investigating a Worker’s Compensation claim (to pay your medical expenses for your arm injury, and to provide you with reasonable work for reasonable pay, or to pay you for lost work damages) You also may have a wrongful termination suit you can file as well, which should help you get back on your feet.

HOWEVER, the unemployment ruling is likely right…. you were not laid off and its unclear weather you quit or you were fired in the eyes of your state. Obviously, you wanted to go to work, but the fact is that you didn’t show up, and I am sure the papers filed from the company say you didn’t show up, or you were an absentee or something of that effect.

THE MOST IMPORTANT thing you need to figure out is can you prove that you got hurt AT WORK.
Who threw the package of frozen food to you? Will they testify about the exact work you were doing? (They might be fired for it… are they willing to do that?)Is it reasonable and rational to assume that catching those frozen foos is something that COULD be dangerous to you or someone similar to yourself in size and weight, without additional safety precautions being taken. Accidents DO happen…. you’re not trying to prove it’s ALWAYS dangerous, just that it could be, in the right (or wrong) circumstancesWhat do your doctor’s notes explain about the injury? You have a right to those records… Would any other people in your life have the ability to make a judge believe and understand your story? Maybe someone you complained to about the injury… someone who went to the doctor with you?

The BIG problem you face is its clear your relationship with the people you worked with was NOT GOOD and that can harm you big-time. Are any of those people willing to stand up for you? The company is NOT on your side, but is there any information you can get from them about what happened?

If you can prove this case somehow, I would recommend calling an attorney and asking for a consultation. If you can find one that specializes in workman’s compensation cases AND wrongful termination, that is your best option… they will know what to do, and if your case is solid.

You may not be able to pay… make sure that’s clear up-front. If you have a good case, they will likely take it anyway.

I would avoid the “one call, that’s all” traffic accident attorneys you see on T.V., but that’s just my opinion.

Good luck.

]]> Comment on YOU’RE FIRED! Will you do us a favor and sign this before you go? by justme http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2007/02/05/youre-fired-will-you-do-us-a-favor-and-sign-this-before-you-go/#comment-408898 justme Sat, 04 Jul 2009 07:47:11 +0000 http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/archives/377#comment-408898 I am sorry if I sound stupid, but, I know I really am now. I was a faithful employee and gave more than my share. The company I worked for, I thought was great until 1 month into the first day. There was so much backbiting, framing, unprofessionalism(and that was just the supervisors). I did my job was promoted? noway, I was put in the other cafeteria, I was head cashier over 2 more people if they showed. I got hurt on the job, I could not turn loose and go to the med cause it was almost time for our rush and I still had work to do. At first when my arm started hurting it was after catching a 35*45 pound of frozen french fries, it snatched my right arm down with a jerk and it was painful but later it was getting worse. I told my co-worker that I thought I pulled something in my arm. When my supervisor came in later at 12:30 at night I told him, he laughed and said "shake it out, you will be ok. no report made and nothing in writing, my ignorance. I was told after going to the dr. I had to have a mri done, then when results came in, he said I had to have a operation and until I had it there were restrictions, no lifting,no pulling,arms couldn't go over my head and no picking up more than 5 pounds. I called before I went into work and told them what the doctor said I was told not to bother coming in that I knew that I had to be able to do alot more than that and he had no position for me until I was 110%. He also said that after that call him when I could work. When doc released me I still had the restrictions, I called said I wanted to work (by the way he took another girl and gave her head cashier the same night). I told him about the restrictions and he told me the same as before hand. I started unemployment, I needed the money, then I received a letter from unemployment stating that I was fired for misconduct. I don't know what to do about my bills for the hospital, I had to stop therapy cause not enough money. Geeshhhhhhhh I am sorry if I sound stupid, but, I know I really am now. I was a faithful employee and gave more than my share. The company I worked for, I thought was great until 1 month into the first day. There was so much backbiting, framing, unprofessionalism(and that was just the supervisors). I did my job was promoted? noway, I was put in the other cafeteria, I was head cashier over 2 more people if they showed. I got hurt on the job, I could not turn loose and go to the med cause it was almost time for our rush and I still had work to do. At first when my arm started hurting it was after catching a 35*45 pound of frozen french fries, it snatched my right arm down with a jerk and it was painful but later it was getting worse. I told my co-worker that I thought I pulled something in my arm. When my supervisor came in later at 12:30 at night I told him, he laughed and said “shake it out, you will be ok.
no report made and nothing in writing, my ignorance. I was told after going to the dr. I had to have a mri done, then when results came in, he said I had to have a operation and until I had it there were restrictions, no lifting,no pulling,arms couldn’t go over my head and no picking up more than 5 pounds.
I called before I went into work and told them what the doctor said I was told not to bother coming in that I knew that I had to be able to do alot more than that and he had no position for me until I was 110%. He also said that after that call him when I could work. When doc released me I still had the restrictions, I called said I wanted to work (by the way he took another girl and gave her head cashier the same night). I told him about the restrictions and he told me the same as before hand. I started unemployment, I needed the money, then I received a letter from unemployment stating that I was fired for misconduct. I don’t know what to do about my bills for the hospital, I had to stop therapy cause not enough money. Geeshhhhhhhh

]]> Comment on Depression Clouds Everything by Linda http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2007/10/29/depression-clouds-everything/#comment-408828 Linda Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:10:18 +0000 http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/archives/956#comment-408828 Hi Dana! Thank you so very much! Great post, Susan! Discouraged: I feel your pain; I've been there. If you haven't already, call the credit card companies. I did. One of mine had already gone to collection. They put me on a hardship program where I paid a lower amount and, after a period of time, it comes out of collection. See if you can get on a hardship plan and ask them to work with you etc. Linda Hi Dana!

Thank you so very much!

Great post, Susan!

Discouraged: I feel your pain; I’ve been there. If you haven’t already, call the credit card companies. I did. One of mine had already gone to collection. They put me on a hardship program where I paid a lower amount and, after a period of time, it comes out of collection. See if you can get on a hardship plan and ask them to work with you etc.

Linda

]]> Comment on Depression Clouds Everything by Karen http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2007/10/29/depression-clouds-everything/#comment-408827 Karen Fri, 03 Jul 2009 15:55:58 +0000 http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/archives/956#comment-408827 Sometimes I just want to give up the job search. it is so DAMN (sorry) frustrating. But I know I'm not the only one. And despite what I try to convince myself, I'm sure my current medical problems are all Stress-Related. But since I have no insurance right now (COBRA ran out and I havent gotten my Medicare ADvantage card yet - and I couldnt get anyone on the phone to answer what's happening with my enrollment), I cant even go to the doctor. But I have signed up with NY Cares to do some volunteer work. I even volunteered to come help them in their office with data entry. If I can find one project per week....at least that will get me out among the humans again (as opposed to interaction with Cable TV). I'm very happy to hear that some peeps have gotten some type of employment. I know one is not supposed to say "I'll take anything" but at this point I would, as long as I dont have to stand all day. Sometimes I just want to give up the job search. it is so DAMN (sorry) frustrating. But I know I’m not the only one. And despite what I try to convince myself, I’m sure my current medical problems are all Stress-Related. But since I have no insurance right now (COBRA ran out and I havent gotten my Medicare ADvantage card yet - and I couldnt get anyone on the phone to answer what’s happening with my enrollment), I cant even go to the doctor.

But I have signed up with NY Cares to do some volunteer work. I even volunteered to come help them in their office with data entry. If I can find one project per week….at least that will get me out among the humans again (as opposed to interaction with Cable TV).

I’m very happy to hear that some peeps have gotten some type of employment. I know one is not supposed to say “I’ll take anything” but at this point I would, as long as I dont have to stand all day.

]]> Comment on I need MONEY! by JibberJobber Blog » Blog Archive » Medical Prescriptions for the Unemployed: Pfizer Does It Right! http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2006/08/02/i-need-money/#comment-408811 JibberJobber Blog » Blog Archive » Medical Prescriptions for the Unemployed: Pfizer Does It Right! Fri, 03 Jul 2009 13:53:38 +0000 http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/?p=34#comment-408811 [...] really blew me away. I’ve blogged about health care here a few times - starting from when I cut my hand open to my thoughts about Obama saving the healthcare system… but this one is really heartening.  [...] [...] really blew me away. I’ve blogged about health care here a few times - starting from when I cut my hand open to my thoughts about Obama saving the healthcare system… but this one is really heartening.  [...]

]]> Comment on How to Get Started on JibberJobber: JibberJobber Tutorial by How to Fight Unemployment Blues | Professional Resume Services http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2009/06/29/how-to-get-started-on-jibberjobber-jibberjobber-tutorial/#comment-408692 How to Fight Unemployment Blues | Professional Resume Services Fri, 03 Jul 2009 00:53:21 +0000 http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/?p=2551#comment-408692 [...] shows and join any associations in your field.  Keep your entire job search organized by using jibberjobber (one of my favorite sites for job search management).  Get your resume, cover letter and [...] [...] shows and join any associations in your field.  Keep your entire job search organized by using jibberjobber (one of my favorite sites for job search management).  Get your resume, cover letter and [...]

]]> Comment on Free Webinar: Where Is The Recession Headed? by Jane N-B http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2009/07/02/free-webinar-where-is-the-recession-headed/#comment-408690 Jane N-B Fri, 03 Jul 2009 00:41:00 +0000 http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/?p=2565#comment-408690 Wow, interesting data points. As I mentioned to Jason on Twitter, I'm not sure if I should be scared or encouraged! The one line that really jumps out at me is the green one...if I'm reading this correctly, does that mean that the overall rate of growth of employment here in the U.S. is moving in a downward direction? Does this correlate with the growth of technology, decrease in need for skilled/unskilled labor, and off-shoring of jobs? If so, then in absolute numbers....there aren't going to be as many jobs out there when the "recovery" happens...? Is it a reflection of a decreasing birthrate? Inquiring minds want to know :-) Looking forward to the seminar ~ Wow, interesting data points. As I mentioned to Jason on Twitter, I’m not sure if I should be scared or encouraged!

The one line that really jumps out at me is the green one…if I’m reading this correctly, does that mean that the overall rate of growth of employment here in the U.S. is moving in a downward direction?

Does this correlate with the growth of technology, decrease in need for skilled/unskilled labor, and off-shoring of jobs? If so, then in absolute numbers….there aren’t going to be as many jobs out there when the “recovery” happens…?

Is it a reflection of a decreasing birthrate?

Inquiring minds want to know :-)

Looking forward to the seminar ~

]]> Comment on Free Webinar: Where Is The Recession Headed? by Bob Towle http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/2009/07/02/free-webinar-where-is-the-recession-headed/#comment-408664 Bob Towle Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:07:27 +0000 http://www.jibberjobber.com/blog/?p=2565#comment-408664 Thanks for your notes on the recession and your graph on employment growth rates. I was curious about something. So I went on line to see if there was any correlation between major historical events (wars in particular) and positive growth in employment. I found that there was one definite similarity and this may be old news to you guys. The beginning of each major war from 1939 through 1991 was also the beginning of a major positive employment growth spike, each of which lasted from 1 to 3 years. The Vietnam War had many spikes throughout its duration and the first Gulf War's spike lasted 4 years after that war was over. Are there any other good barometers that can be used to measure when positive employment growth can be expexted? and does positive employment growth necessarily mean that the economy and the dollar are getting stronger? Thanks again, Bob Towle Thanks for your notes on the recession and your graph on employment growth rates. I was curious about something. So I went on line to see if there was any correlation between major historical events (wars in particular) and positive growth in employment. I found that there was one definite similarity and this may be old news to you guys. The beginning of each major war from 1939 through 1991 was also the beginning of a major positive employment growth spike, each of which lasted from 1 to 3 years. The Vietnam War had many spikes throughout its duration and the first Gulf War’s spike lasted 4 years after that war was over. Are there any other good barometers that can be used to measure when positive employment growth can be expexted? and does positive employment growth necessarily mean that the economy and the dollar are getting stronger?
Thanks again,
Bob Towle

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